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Dave___in___CT


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SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Original Message   Jun 22, 2005 8:41 pm
Hi...

Can't find it... Previously bought it from AMSOIL... the only source I found... don't see it in their catalogs or website now... still available ? ( too lazy to call 'em...)

I use it in my OPE... Got Mobil-1 10w-30 instead...

Dave...

Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.
Henry Ford

   BCS Tractor & snowblower

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Marshall


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #1   Jun 22, 2005 9:03 pm
Hey Dave,

I haven't found any strait 30 weight oil in full synthetic either. IMHO you don't need it anyway, especially in your climate. If you were in south Texas you might convince me of the need for it but it would be a tough sale. I use 10W30 Mobil 1 Full Sybthetic, it gets mighty hot down here for a fairly extended period of time and I have never had any engine troubles arise or signs of increased wear. It may be more important for dino oil users.
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Termy


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #2   Jun 22, 2005 9:12 pm
Dave... Please run straight SAE 30 detergent oil in your machines. I do not believe in the use of synthetic oils...


Dave___in___CT


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #3   Jun 23, 2005 7:17 pm
Hi...

In the OPE... I find the 21" mower and BCS tractor start easier w/ full synthetic... like one (or two) pulls vs. 3-4...

And... my ole' Gravely garden tractor gets a hard multi-hour workout mowin...

I like the full-synthetic oil...

Dave... 

Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.
Henry Ford

   BCS Tractor & snowblower

mml4


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #4   Jun 23, 2005 8:51 pm
Hi Guys!

The Amsoil 30wt synthetic is marketed as "Diesel Oil". If you read the container it comes in it explains it can be used in any type of engine requiring 30wt. My Amsoil dealer still has it on the shelf. He says it only comes packaged in gallon containers.

The Kawasaki owners manual for the OHV engines warns you that while the use of 10w30 is acceptable you can expect the engines to use oil. They state that the use of straight 30wt. will eliminate this consumption.

Marc 

Synthetic 10W-30/SAE 30
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Marshall


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #5   Jun 23, 2005 8:56 pm
mml4 wrote:
Hi Guys!

The Amsoil 30wt synthetic is marketed as "Diesel Oil". If you read the container it comes in it explains it can be used in any type of engine requiring 30wt. My Amsoil dealer still has it on the shelf. He says it only comes packaged in gallon containers.

The Kawasaki owners manual for the OHV engines warns you that while the use of 10w30 is acceptable you can expect the engines to use oil. They state that the use of straight 30wt. will eliminate this consumption.

Marc 

That's good to know! Guess I'll steer clear of Kawa's until that gets straitened out.
mml4


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #6   Jun 23, 2005 9:09 pm
Hi Again-

Just noticed the new label on the Amsoil 30wt. It now says 10w30/30wt. Think they are trying to cover their bases against the Mobil10/30 Synthetic? The old  Amsoil Diesel label read 30wt. Nothing about 10w30!!

Marc

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Marshall


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #7   Jun 23, 2005 9:14 pm
Where's Blue99 when you need him? It looks like it says it meets or exceeds both of the requirments, 10W30 and 30W. Got me?
Dave___in___CT


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #8   Jun 24, 2005 5:40 pm
Thanks marc...

I did see the 30w AMSOIL as Diesel... and didn't read the details as you have !

Thanks you !

Dave...

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Henry Ford

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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #9   Jun 24, 2005 11:16 pm
That's interesting, I don't know much about oil grades, but I think 10W-30 is lighter than SAE 30.  I wonder how they mix both of them together to make that. 

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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #10   Jul 1, 2005 11:13 pm
Marshall,

I use the Mobil 10W30 in my Husqvarna lawn tractor and it has the Kawasaki engine.  I have not had a problem with it using oil at all.  I think they may put that on there just to cover themselves if someone decides to put a cheap brand of 10W30 dino oil instead of something of quality.  I would not let that scare you away from the Kawasaki engine.
Marshall


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #11   Jul 1, 2005 11:35 pm
uc113 wrote:
Marshall,

I use the Mobil 10W30 in my Husqvarna lawn tractor and it has the Kawasaki engine.  I have not had a problem with it using oil at all.  I think they may put that on there just to cover themselves if someone decides to put a cheap brand of 10W30 dino oil instead of something of quality.  I would not let that scare you away from the Kawasaki engine.

UC113,

I'm glad to hear that!! I can't imagine a company making an engine that only runs on 30W oil today.

Thanks a lot for the heads up!

BTW, how's the Husky doing this summer?
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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #12   Jul 2, 2005 11:13 am
hey now about that oil...

you also need to know that there is a difference in air cooled engine oil and liquid cooled engine oil.

thyere are very few oils that will say anything about being for air cooled engines .

and on the kawi engine ...use the 30 wt .

later chris

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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #13   Jul 3, 2005 3:56 pm
I also have a Kawasaki on my Scag mower, and i run straight 30 wt. Almost ANY engine will burn some oil, and oil consumption CAN and WILL increrase when a thinner oil is used.

Years ago cars ran fine with thicker oils. Heck, have some bad bearings in a old big block, run heavier oil to keep the oil pressure up. But with newer engines, and " Energy Conserving" thinner lubricants, tolerances although tighter, can alow some oil by and burn off. My ford 4.6 burns a quart or so between changes, and the manual stresses 5W30. I bet some 40 wt would elimiate the loss.

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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #14   Jul 3, 2005 11:18 pm
HI MArshall,

Glad I could be of help with the Kawasaki motor condiering all the advice you have given me.  THe Husqy is doing great, cuts as well as the day I purchased it, thanks for asking.  Hope you and your family have a safe and happy 4th.
Marshall


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #15   Jul 4, 2005 12:04 am
Back at ya buddy. 
martinnitram


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #16   May 19, 2007 8:01 pm
I have a Troy-Bilt Rotatiller that calls for SAE 30 oil, can I use Synthetic 10W30 or any 10W30 for that matter?
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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #17   May 19, 2007 11:58 pm
martinnitram wrote:
I have a Troy-Bilt Rotatiller that calls for SAE 30 oil, can I use Synthetic 10W30 or any 10W30 for that matter?

No problem with that 10W30 is excellent for summer in small engine, as long as you change oil once a year.


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Re: SAE 30 Oil - Full Synthetic ?
Reply #18   May 20, 2007 10:33 pm
Thanks
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