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Re: My new DC17
Reply #10 - 10/20/06 at 9:04am

Quote from VacOMatic on 10/20/06 at 2:51am:

Looks like Dyson made many improvements and changes!

Questions:
1. noise levels with brush on and brush off? I hope it has the vac motor noise level of the ball without the shriek of the brush motor.

2. manueverability compared to other Dyson models?

Trilobite, most vacs I have seen have air vents leading from cord reel into suction compartment. I suspect this is pull air through the reel helping cool the reel and cord. Vacuum cords get warm to hot during use, and if wound up without cooling provided, the heat buildup could possibly damage the cord and/or the reel. Hence the vents for air cooling.
In fact, some vacuums warn you specifically against operating them with the cord partly wound.

The noise level of the DC17 with the brush off is about the same as the previous models, if not, a little lower in pitch. With the motorized brushroll activated, it is slightly louder, but not as loud as the DC15. It has more of a low frequency roar than the high pitched shrieking noise of the DC15. I believe that a lower noise level was why Dyson went with the belt drive this time rather than the gear drive. But make no mistake, the brushroll on the DC17 is much, much more powerful than the ones featured on previous models, with enough torque to pull the machine forward on the carpet.

The maneuverability of the DC17 is about the same as the DC07 and DC14, and it certainly is no DC15 when it comes to hard flooring, but it's no hassle either. Plus, I could just use the included floor nozzle attachment to clean the really hard to reach places.

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just-passing-throu Senior Member Lets all be friends Posts: 130	Re: My new DC17 Reply #11 - 10/20/06 at 9:52am Quote from tiger21 on 10/19/06 at 11:47pm: The weight of 20.79 pounds w/ attachments and 20.56 pounds w/o is almost the weight of a KIRBY. Too much weight for a light weight. . There is one big difference. The Kirby is self-propelled, so it takes little effort to push. I have never tried the D machine, but my interest is tweeked.
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Reply #12 - 10/20/06 at 11:30am

The brush bar helps made DC17 seem self propelled. It's almost weightless to move. Feels like an Oreck to push.

Carmine is so full of it he's turning brown. Dyson did NOT 'listen' to him and his silly comments about the brush bar. Nor that stupid Communist Reports magazine. James has always wanted a soft brush bar that doesn't rip out carpets. He said as much in his video guide for independent dealers when he demonstrated the horrible effect of the Hoover brush bar compared to the dyson brush.

The DC17 was made exclusively for American homes and carpets.
I tested it on Frieze, I have a new carpet sample of long Frieze for just this purpose. The new DC17 brush bar litterally rips it apart, pulling tons of tufts up. But not nearly as badly as a Hoover brush bar, which shreds the rug in seconds. Ironic that the DC07 brush bar doesn't rip out the Frieze. So James was right, after all.

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Carmine_Difazio Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5559	Re: My new DC17 Reply #13 - 10/20/06 at 12:44pm Hey Dual: My dear Wife was just complimenting me yesterday on my Vegas tan. All natural and 100 percent genuine. Carmine D.
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VacOMatic Senior Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 475	Re: My new DC17 Reply #14 - 10/21/06 at 12:01am Thanks for info, Toibas. Interesting about the brush pulling..my Felix does the same (with brush off, felix is kinda a drag to move around). A future thought; Dyson might make alternative brush bars for different carpets. That's something the euro vacs Sebo and Lindhaus could also do as their brushrolls are very easy to remove and swap.
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Re: My new DC17
Reply #15 - 10/21/06 at 1:48pm

Hey dual,
Don't you know that a new carpet is full of cuttings from the manufacturer and it will take a few cleanings before they are out. When I sell a cleaner to owners of brand new carpet I let them Know in the first few months they will get a lot of cuttings and then it will stop. If yau get a lot of carpet after that you have a problem to check in on. It is not the cleaner , usually. I also have not heard an answer to my question on the brushroll and how it is stopped if simethind gets in and jams it.

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old-timer Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1223	Re: My new DC17 Reply #16 - 10/21/06 at 3:30pm Hi Tiger21,it only took them 4 or 5 years to finally get the brush and cogged belt system almost right,now you want a circuit breaker too, for dyson to get that right it would add 100.00 to the price. Man you guys want everything............ O.T.
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Re: My new DC17
Reply #17 - 10/21/06 at 5:40pm

Quote from VacOMatic on 10/20/06 at 2:51am:

Looks like Dyson made many improvements and changes!

Questions:
1. noise levels with brush on and brush off? I hope it has the vac motor noise level of the ball without the shriek of the brush motor.

2. manueverability compared to other Dyson models?

Trilobite, most vacs I have seen have air vents leading from cord reel into suction compartment. I suspect this is pull air through the reel helping cool the reel and cord. Vacuum cords get warm to hot during use, and if wound up without cooling provided, the heat buildup could possibly damage the cord and/or the reel. Hence the vents for air cooling.
In fact, some vacuums warn you specifically against operating them with the cord partly wound.

Thanks, VacOMatic. I was thinking along the lines of a French manufactured (1982) Hoover Sensotronic, which blew its exhaust from virtually all sides of the cleaner, including the cord-reel area. No HEPA exhaust filter in those days, but double-layer bags were standard.

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old-timer Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1223	Re: My new DC17 Reply #18 - 10/21/06 at 5:59pm speaking of hepa filters, what good is hepa filtration on a vacuum when it's only used on average of about a half to one hour per week, Does it really do anything for indoor air pollution?. IT should be called[ hepa's] high efficiency particulate arrest scam. O.T.
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Re: My new DC17
Reply #19 - 10/21/06 at 6:40pm

Quote from old-timer on 10/21/06 at 5:59pm:

speaking of hepa filters, what good is hepa filtration on a vacuum when it's only used on average of about a half to one hour per week, Does it really do anything for indoor air pollution?.

IT should be called[ hepa's]

high efficiency particulate arrest scam.

O.T.

I believe it actually does help decrease indoor air pollution, but only if there is a methodical, regular cleaning regime - particularly necessary if there is an allergy sufferer in the house.

There was a programme on UK television concerning children with allergies, and the programme makers gave the participating families cleaning packs (allergy bedding, Morphy-Richard allergy vacuum cleaners, etc.) and told them to clean regularly. The result was that the health of the children dramatically improved; and the mothers who couldn't be bothered to continue the regime because of work shifts -or sheer laziness- their children took a retrograde step.

There is no use in using a machine which blasts dustmite faeces, cat allergen, pollen, etc. back into the atmosphere. That's asking for trouble.

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