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Reply #20 - 01/23/07 at 7:24pm
 
FYI:  These reviews of the dyson mini turbine tool are on the amazon web site.  One dyson user mentions the "old" original dyson mini turbine tool (gray) and rates it better than the new current mini turbine tool.  But the old was discontinued and no longer available for sale.
 
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B00062MT7E/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/104-5378968-0473511?ie=UTF8&n=284507&s=kitchen
 
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Reply #21 - 01/24/07 at 5:50pm
 
Quote from Mike_W. on 08/22/06 at 12:54pm:


Not all vacuum cleaners have a mini power nozzle.  There is no reason to stay away from the purchase of a vacuum cleaner, because it does not have a mini power nozzle.

I agree about that Mike W said here b/c all U have 2 do is buy a turbo brush (preferably Hoover) & it WILL work on many vacs w/ 1 1/4" diameter or U can get an adaptor to use w/other vacs that have diffrent diameter.  BTW the Hoover turbo brush OUTCLEANS most other turbo brushes; & maybe even some electric ones b/c the brush design on my Rainbowmate are "spaced out" which is ineffecient for deep cleaning.  I frequently use the Hoover turbo brush with my Shop-Vac & the Tristar almost every time I vacuum the car or house b/c its a bit quieter than the SMART turbo brush (paid $35 & not as good as the Hoover [paid $15]) & the Hoover brush has WindTunnel technology (can anyone tell me if thats true since it says WINDTUNNEL) but I think it might be another factor that it cleans better than my other turbo or electric mini powernozzles (Yes, I STILL own 4 as of now but haven't used them since I got the Hoover TB)  Should I get rid of the other turbo or electro brushes or should I keep them although the Hoover TB turbines cracked (but still works good) cuz I'm thinking about getting another Hoover TB so I can keep one in the house & the other (with cracked turbine) for car cleaning only & that's what I do to avoid "cross-contamination" from vehicle dirt & house dirt; I use the SMART only for cleaning furniture & the Rainbowmate for car cleaning until it died (possibly its motor burned out?)  Again the Hoover TB is the BEST turbo powered brush ever made even though the turbine is in the dirt path but still good suction on the brush area compared to other TB's built by other manufacturers that they seem to lack suction power on the brush area & leave some dirt behind.  After each use I clean out the nozzles (electric & turbo) to maintain effeciency & extend its lifetime; but I should be more careful when I clean the car with a TB so I wouldn't have to face the same problem when I get another TB or electro-brush
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Reply #22 - 01/29/07 at 6:11pm
 
I'm surprised that none of the turbo or electric "mini-mate" has a beater bar or a spiral shaped brush roll compared to their full-sized nozzles & uprights.  The beater bar can enhance cleaning performance in tight places (car interior) & the spiral shaped roller having longer, stiffer bristles just like the Hoover WT upright & PN.  Why don't the mfr's put beater bar on the mini-mates (turbo & electric)  But the brush tuft design (like Hoover WT TB) is the best, that REALLY helps get hard 2 reach areas clean but with a beater bar added, you'd get MORE dirt out of the surface being cleaned.
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Reply #23 - 01/29/07 at 6:54pm
 
Hi Tri-star,
 
Unfortunately, the risk of accident would be greatly increased if the brush rolls were beefed up.  There's enough worst-case safety scenarios regarding vacuums as is.  That applies not only for toddlers as one might expect but for your everyday adult klutz and everyone between.  Considering our "take 'em straight to court" mentality, I am surprised I have not heard more news of lawsuits.
 
As a kid, I once stuck the end of a plugged in Electrolux XXX cord in my mouth.  Miraculously, or at least miraculously to me, I didn't leave it in my mouth long enough to get a severe shock.  I have no idea how many similar incidents have occured but do note that Electrolux began to secure it's power cord to the machine with the making of the Model LX and its locked enclosure.  You had to push a button and lift a small cover to get at the cord connection.  Yeah, I tried that out at five or six too but didn't get the knack for getting the cord loose easily until I was forty.
 
As handy as they are in the proper hands,  hand-held electric mini-mates already have the potential to get caught on someone's clothing or in someone's hair or nip fingers.  More motor power or more ability to clean aggressively might sound more desirable for these small attachments but the harm factor would be raised leaps and bounds.  As much as I can't stand them, I would not be surprised if that isn't why more turbo nozzles exist.  They stall easily and do not maintain much force if interrupted while in operation.
 
I don't have kids but I'm sure any of you who do know what can happen if you turn your head for just a couple of seconds.
 
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Reply #24 - 01/30/07 at 8:48am
 
Quote from Tri-Star_Vacman on 01/29/07 at 6:11pm:
I'm surprised that none of the turbo or electric "mini-mate" has a beater bar or a spiral shaped brush roll compared to their full-sized nozzles & uprights.  The beater bar can enhance cleaning performance in tight places (car interior) & the spiral shaped roller having longer, stiffer bristles just like the Hoover WT upright & PN.  Why don't the mfr's put beater bar on the mini-mates (turbo & electric)  But the brush tuft design (like Hoover WT TB) is the best, that REALLY helps get hard 2 reach areas clean but with a beater bar added, you'd get MORE dirt out of the surface being cleaned.

 
 
FYI:  MiniStar motorized tool for chairs, stairs, and interior automobile interiors.  Specs say "internal beater bar" with MSRP $162 for TriStar EXL electric hose.  
 
http://www.tristarvacuumscanada.com/ministar.html  
 
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Reply #25 - 01/30/07 at 12:23pm
 
I have a hard time believing that this Tristar ministar has a beater bar, but I have not seen it.  It does not seen feasible w/ this design.  Sometimes companies will write that a nozzle has a beater bar, when they should say that it has "beater bar action".
 
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Reply #26 - 01/30/07 at 7:40pm
 
Quote from Mike_W. on 01/30/07 at 12:23pm:
I have a hard time believing that this Tristar ministar has a beater bar, but I have not seen it.  

 
Hello Mike W:
 
You're not alone.  I messaged TriStar and asked the question specifically about the beater bar in the MiniStar.  After I hear back, I'll update the Forum.
 
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Reply #27 - 01/30/07 at 7:54pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 01/30/07 at 7:40pm:
Quote from Mike_W. on 01/30/07 at 12:23pm:
I have a hard time believing that this Tristar ministar has a beater bar, but I have not seen it.  


Hello Mike W:

You're not alone.  I messaged TriStar and asked the question specifically about the beater bar in the MiniStar.  After I hear back, I'll update the Forum.

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Unfortunately, this was the message I received back:
 
Recipient: <tristar@tristarvacuumscanada.com>
    Reason:    <tristar@tristarvacuumscanada.com>: Recipient address rejected: does not exist
 
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Reply #28 - 01/31/07 at 12:06am
 
Carmine,
  The ministar is similar to the Sidekick ll that is on the Aerus  machines. There is no beater bar on the unit. A revolving brush is what is used.
  As far as beater bars , the manufactures have found them damaging today's carpets. Most of the new beater bar brushes had plastic inserts and as the bars got nicked carpets started being damaged.
For a short period Electrolux (now Areus) had beater bars on their commercial power nozzles. When reports came in about damage complaints on carpets, they were removed and stopped being used. Since the introduction of the first power nozzle by Electrolux in 1959 there have been numerous improvements and changes due to the changing carpets.
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Reply #29 - 01/31/07 at 7:11am
 

Hello Tiger21:
 
Thanks for the info.  Some of the past and present carpet sweepers including the Electrolux Pronto stick vacuum use flexible rubber fins to similate beater bars and/or enhance air movement and carpet agitation.
 
Do you recall the Preco Power Brush of the 50's?  It had a cogged belt driven brush roll.  And fit all the luxes of the time.  Was this before the lux PN (1959)?  
 
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