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Another New HOOVER upright (Read 8650 times)
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Re: Another New HOOVER upright
Reply #30 - 10/20/05 at 12:03pm
 
Jack:
 
I'm just setting the Forum straight for the record.  Nothing personal.  Just business.  Emotions never get in the way of business.
 
I haven't sold a new HOOVER since 1992.  Retired from the vacuum store business 1949-1992.  Sold the business to a professional colleague who is still in the vacuum business in the same store and location I had for over 40 years.  Consulting work now.  It's easier on the body, less headaches, and I don't get my hands dirty anymore.  
 
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Reply #31 - 10/20/05 at 12:21pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio   on 10/20/05 at 3:28am:

Do you think the price drop by dyson on the DC15 effective Nov 1 and the new DC15 model at the SAM's Club are a coincidence? Or are these a direct result of the new HOOVER vacuums?
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My vote is on coincidence.   Apparently Dyson has decided that the price of the Ball was too high to move the volume they wanted to sell.  No one can predict how well the new Hoover will sell, so I'm skeptical that Dyson would know how it will affect their sales.  Unless Dyson has invented a crystal ball...  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #32 - 10/20/05 at 2:16pm
 
Mr. RAT:
 
If dyson did invent a crystal ball and "IT WORKED PROPERLY" as he says, I'd buy it.
 
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Reply #33 - 10/20/05 at 2:33pm
 
"Good luck in your Hoover sales and as I believe you are fond of saying, time will tell."
 
 
To set the Forum record straight, I DO NOT SELL HOOVERS, I DO NOT WORK FOR HOOVER and I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR HOOVER.  
 
When I had my vacuum cleaner sales and service business (1949-1992) I was an authorized HOOVER sales and service dealer and then a HOOVER warranty dealer.  I was also a warranty dealer for EUREKA and PANASONIC concurrently with HOOVER.
 
Nothing personal just business.
 
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Reply #34 - 10/20/05 at 2:43pm
 
Sorry did not mean to imply in any way you were working for Hoover, but it is just a little obvious who you are rooting for and pushing in the forum.  Thus it is polite to wish continued good luck.
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Reply #35 - 10/20/05 at 2:58pm
 
Quote from Jack   on 10/20/05 at 2:43pm:
Sorry did not mean to imply in any way you were working for Hoover, but it is just a little obvious who you are rooting for and pushing in the forum.  Thus it is polite to wish continued good luck.

 
No offense taken or apology needed.  Several persons on the Forum have made reference to me as a HOOVER employee or associated with HOOVER in sales.  People reading here have posted to me and asked.  I am more aware of it so I post it whenever I suspect a misunderstanding.
 
If I was rooting exclusively for HOOVER, I would never have been EUREKA and PANASONIC too in addition to all other makes and models.  In business as in your personal life, it's never wise to put all your eggs in one basket.  The same is true for vacuums.  One is not the best for all.  Giving customers options is the way to successful business and longevity.
 
HOOVER uprights have my respect and admiration for being the best rug cleaners in the history of the vacuum industry in the USA.  As pointed out by another here on the Forum who is wiser than me, HOOVER is the GOLD standard among vacuums for rug cleaning.
 
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Reply #36 - 10/20/05 at 4:44pm
 
Quote from Jack   on 10/20/05 at 2:43pm:
Sorry did not mean to imply in any way you were working for Hoover, but it is just a little obvious who you are rooting for and pushing in the forum. Thus it is polite to wish continued good luck.

 
 
Sure there's some excitement about the sleeping giant coming out with something new.  There has also been concern of how Hoover would be handled by Maytag and if the  merger goes through Whirlpool.   There's some hope that the bean counters that have been running the company have allowed the engineers to do something creative for a change.  Hoover has seemed to only be interested in new machines at the low end of the price scale.  Will be interesting to see Hoover's version of a high end machine.
 
 
 
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Reply #37 - 10/20/05 at 6:03pm
 
Carmine,and RAT, its nice to see hoover get back into the high end upright market again, hopefully the machine works and lasts, hopefully research and development had done a bang up job, there should be no corners cut on a 500.00 vacuum. It would be interesting to see the advertising campain built for it. I dont think money's an issue for hoover anymore.  
 
LET THE GAMES BEGIN,  
 
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Re: Another New HOOVER upright
Reply #38 - 10/23/05 at 12:25pm
 
Yes, this forum gets flame happy all too often.
 
As for the self cleaning HEPA filter, how does it handle oily dirt residues that plug up virtually every other filter on the planet?  Or particles that collect in it due to electrostatic attraction?  Will check it out once it is on the market to see!
 
It would also be nice to see this new Hoover run quietly (the small Flair isn't bad, suggesting it's possible).
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Re: Another New HOOVER upright
Reply #39 - 12/02/05 at 3:28pm
 
Quote from VacOMatic   on 10/23/05 at 12:25pm:
As for the self cleaning HEPA filter, how does it handle oily dirt residues that plug up virtually every other filter on the planet?  Or particles that collect in it due to electrostatic attraction?  

 
I asked this question before but no answers have come forth yet. I'm still interested to know "where" the collected particulates "go" during the self-cleaning process??  
 
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I think Dual's explanation sums it up:
 
"Self Cleaning" Hepa filter is an oxymoron. Like "Jumbo Shrimp" or "Carmine-Expert". A Hepa filter would have to actually trap dirt, but to be "clean" it would actually have to be 'clean' and not 'knock a little dirt off' like they do now with the self propelled windtunnel or the Kenmore EVO.  To be 'clean' a Hepa filter would either have to be 'new' or 'washed' with absolutely no dirt in it or on it.  Hoover, as is their custom, will make a silly attempt to capitalize on their failing and fading reputation to try and fight Dyson for market share.  It's just as pathetic and useless as Carmine trying to convince us he's some kind of 'consultant' (Yah, right). "
 
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