Hello Loss of Suction:
 
That's not even a genuine Oreck paper bag.  It's a "bojack."  And a cheap bojack.  Might as well use a sandwich bag.  Of course it will clog.  Cheap paper.
 
BUT the bag appears to be a lot larger in capacity and hold more dirt than the dyson dirt bin.  I plan to let the Oreck bag fill half way up before AE tests.  Seems fair to prove loss of suction in a clogged bag, especially an Oreck bag.  One of the best and biggest on the market.  With almost 50 years of sales, it's logical Oreck would make an excellent performing bag for it's vacuum.  Usually lasts over a month in household daily cleaning.  No daily dumping.  Just because you have a new technology doesn't mean its the best for all the industry's applications.  (Newsflash: That's a novel idea!)  For the Oreck upright vacuums and their primary consumers, bagless would be a nightmare and a major setback by over 50 years.  
 
$149 plus $29 for the Oreck vice $400 plus for the dyson?  Lot's of bags make up the difference in price.  No expensive pre-post motor filters to worry about keeping clean in the Oreck like the dyson.  8 pounds for Oreck vice 16-25 pounds for the dyson.  No brushbar to turn on and off in the Oreck vice the dyson when you go from surface to surface.  
 
I read there were over 70 million seniors in the USA and most of them are women.  The number is growing all the time.  Ummh?
 
Will the real "lightweight" champion vacuum please stand up.  What's that?  Dyson didn't make the weight category?  A forfeit match.  Too heavy, top heavy and bulky and can't stand up?  Too complicated.  Too expensive.  Counted out by a technical knock out.  Dyson died from its own inertia.  
 
The new (and still the lightweight champion of the vacuum world):  Oreck--Simply Amazing!    
 
Carmine D.

Quote from old-timer on 05/01/07 at 12:06pm:

 
 
Jimmy P/OT:
 
The cardboard collar is glued on upside down.    Rookies.  
 
You think Oreck may have a little heartburn with this bogus depiction of an Oreck bag.  I know what dyson would do if a bogus product had its name across it.  Call 15 hotshot lawyers from New York in 3 piece suits with 3 names.  
 
Carmine D.  

Oreck bags,typeC.C. come in a package of 8,by envirocare 99.5% dust retention.
The only difference is the seal on the coupling,The genuine oreck bag self closes,the enviro bag has a flap thats glued,to the coupling.
 
They come 50 packages of 8 in a carton.[our cost is 5.25.per package.]
 
  O.T.

Quote from old-timer on 05/01/07 at 5:58pm:

 
 
So Old Timer says to buy knock-offs.  My point was- what about Orecks online bag prices - good deal or bad deal?
 
 
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 05/01/07 at 6:58pm:

 
Carmines says - purchase a new Oreck to get a good deal on Oreck bags. - Not really practical, now is it?  Dyson claims bags clog and kills suction. - Bissell's web site strongly recommends changing bags when they get 2/3 full or motor damage occurs (do to bag clogging and loss of suction - no or little airflow). - But your saying replacing bags once a month is about right.    Do Oreck's bags have some sort of secret sauce technology that allows it to fill, not get clogged and not loose any suction?
 
Having a lightweight vac is good (not powerful just lightweight). - But slaving Oreck owners to these expensive bags is good too?
 
No Loss of Suction.

Quote from No Loss of Suction on 05/01/07 at 8:03pm:

 
Please tell me this is not the best and only dyson sales feature (propaganda and jibberish) that you can offer to sell a dyson over an Oreck?  If not, dyson and the DC18 dyson-lite are in deep do--do.
 
BTW:  I copied this directly from the Oreck Web site you re-posted along with the bojack Oreck bag picture:
 
"Standard Filtration Vacuum Bags
  
 8 Standard Filtration, single-wall vacuum bags.  
     Price: $16.95
Shipping: $2.00  
SKU: CCPK8"
 
I suspect Oreck waived the shipping of $2.00 on my bag purchases because I bought the vacuums and paid $29 for shipping.  Do the number of bags and the price look familiar to information I posted?  I hope so.
 
To save you the futility of posting misinformation about the Oreck belts and their costs, I've included that information too below:
 
"Oreck XL Upright Replacement Belts
  
 Pack of three replacement belts. These belts fit all Oreck XL® Upright models.  
     Price: $9.99
Shipping: $2.00  
SKU: 0300604"
 
A spare belt comes conveniently stored in the Oreck XL.  2 belts should last me at least one year of daily use.
 
Like I said I'm not a math whiz.  But's let's do some cost calculations together based on the information above from the Oreck Web site.  For talking purposes, it will cost me about $30 a year for Genuine Oreck bags and belts.  Based on my Oreck purchase price of $149 and $29 shipping the total cost to me is $178.  Assuming I can buy the DC18 Slim for $419 (based on the $50 mail-in rebate), the cost difference bewteen the Oreck XL and dyson DC18 is $241.  That's 8 years worth of Oreck bags and belts.  I know the Oreck will last 8 years because the vacuum industry says based on experience that the useful life of the XL is AT LEAST 18 years for normal household use.  Assuming "zero" expenses for dyson in 8 years.  Big assumption considering the filters deteriorate with washing every 3-5 months (if performed by the user) and need to be replaced.  
 
Using your points of discussion, Oreck wins again: The lightweight vacuum champion: Oreck--Simply Amazing!
 
Carmine D.