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Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner (Read 290 times)
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #40 - 10/21/06 at 9:43am
 
Doing the math for $ Purchase Price divided by Run Time the result is $27 cost per run minute.  Steep.
 
By contrast, the HOOVER bagless Slider, also designed for quick household pick ups on floors and rugs with a revolving brush, weighs 3 pounds if that, stick vacuum, retails for $25-$40 and has a run time of 30 minutes.  Doing the same math as above the HOOVER (bagless) Slider results in a cost per run minute of 83 cents to $1.33.
 
These two products are designed for different but related cleaning purposes.  The cost per run minute is one common cost denominator for both products regardless of their cleaning uses and purposes.
 
Here's a real life household cleaning requirement: You have household pets (69 million Americans do) who like to lay on your beds, sofas, and chairs.  They shed. The pet hair is both unsightly and can be unhealthy for most.  This requires vacuuming on a daily basis.  What cleaning product would you use to vacuum up the pet hair: The HOOVER Slider or................fill in your favorite.
 
Now complicate the cleaning situation.  But still keeping it real.  You've finished the bed, sofa, and/or chair and you want to continue with area rugs, pet bed, bare floors, room corners, under furniture, between furniture, and wherever else pet hair/dust scatters and clumps.  What product would (and/or could) you use?  HOOVER Slider?  Yes, for sure.  Another............fill in your favorite.
 
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #41 - 10/21/06 at 11:05am
 
Used this for the first time this morning.  It made cleaning out the family van easier than it has been in a long time.  I can't imagine doing the same job with a stick vac.  I liked the fact that when I set it down, while crawling around in the back, it would not keep running due to the trigger mechanism.  Even with kids and dogs to clean out for in my van I had no issues with runtime it probably took me about 25 minutes of work to do a thorough cleaning and it worked great everytime I pulled the trigger.  Did the job great and it didn't cost me anything additional, per minute used.
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #42 - 10/21/06 at 11:31am
 
Most of my friends from VCCC have a Hoover Slider. So do I.  While it's very light weight, it really doesn't have any suction to speak of. The brush revolves and basically throws the dirt into a tiny little cup, with a paper thin filter that clogs immediately.  Try picking up a small piece of dry cat food with the left side of the Slider.  It will be next Tuesday before the brush gets the one piece of cat food into the 'dirt cup'.  At least the Dyson actually works ("properly" as James would say).
 
There IS an adapter to allow you to use the attachments that come in the "Dyson Car Cleaning Kit"  with the DC16.  I fitted the adapter to my DC16, then added the telescopic extension wand from my DC02 canister, along with the Dyson-Designed Low Reach Floor Tool, and it picked up perfectly on the floors, MUCH better than the Hoover Slider (which is no more than just a toy - not a cleaner but entertainment for children and the very elderly. LOL Carmin)
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Reply #43 - 10/21/06 at 12:04pm
 
Carmine, the DC16 is really one nice hand held vac. I vacuumed the back seat and the hatch area and did a really nice job in the 5 mins allowed. If I had the car kit mini turbo tool then it would be one perfect hand held.
 
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Reply #44 - 10/21/06 at 6:13pm
 
Quote from Dyson_Chris on 10/21/06 at 12:04pm:
Carmine, the DC16 is really one nice hand held vac. I vacuumed the back seat and the hatch area and did a really nice job in the 5 mins allowed. If I had the car kit mini turbo tool then it would be one perfect hand held.

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Does the DC16 generate enough suction power to turn the brush in the turbo brush? I thought that certain cleaners were excluded from the car kit, namely DC01, DC02, DC03.
 
DC01 and DC03 could only generate 90airwatts of suction power: not enough to turn a turbo brush, apparently.
 
And I can't see how 36airwatts on DC16 possibly can.
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #45 - 10/21/06 at 6:40pm
 
Hi Carmine, Venson , Tom, and anyone else who remembers the black and decker dustbuster, where you turned the cleaner on, held it upside down and dropped the debries and stuff into it.
 
I still find it amazing how many of these things were sold, but did not work.
 
was this the start of creative advertising?
 
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #46 - 10/21/06 at 7:22pm
 
Quote from dualcyclone on 10/21/06 at 11:31am:
Most of my friends from VCCC have a Hoover Slider. So do I.  While it's very light weight, it really doesn't have any suction to speak of. The brush revolves and basically throws the dirt into a tiny little cup, with a paper thin filter that clogs immediately.  Try picking up a small piece of dry cat food with the left side of the Slider.  It will be next Tuesday before the brush gets the one piece of cat food into the 'dirt cup'.  At least the Dyson actually works ("properly" as James would say).


 
Hey Dual:
 
I don't have cat food.  My lab is diabetic and can't eat dry dog food.  
 
But I have a grand daughter whose 2 1/2 years old.  She drops and throws M&M's plain and peanuts, cheerios, cocoa puffs, and fruit loops on the floor.  The HOOVER Slider works wonderfully.  I like the fact that in the upright position it cuts off and then starts again when the handle is released.
 
The opening for the debris into the dirt bin (the dirt bin is small) is about the size of the top half of an adult's thumb.  Anything that is smaller than this has no problem for picking up and passing thru to the dirt bin.  I vacuum the cement floor in my two car garage with the HOOVER Slider.  I get alot of small pebbles and flower leaves and such in the garage.  HOOVER Slider gets them right up.
 
When I first saw the HOOVER Slider I thought it was a toy too.  Looks are deceiving.  It's no higher than most of the play vacuums sold for the same price.  After I used it, I was convinced it is a wonderful quick cleaning aid for many household tasks.
 
I typically use the car vacuums at the gas pumps for 50 cents for 5 minutes.  But these don't pick up my lab's hair which gets stuck to the car carpeting.  What I can't get with the straight suction car vacuums, I get with the HOOVER Slider.  My lab stays in the back of our Ford Explorer when we travel.  It's all carpeted.  The straight suction at the gas pump vacuums can't get the dog hair up.  The HOOVER Slider does easily.  Because of the revolving brush roll.  
 
I don't care if it looks like a Christmas Tree ornament, if it does the job and costs $25-$40 dollars with a 30 minute charge, I'm a buyer and user.
 
I am probably one of the HOOVER Slider's best customers.  I've purchased quite a few and gifted them away to friends, family, and neighbors.  They all praise the HOOVER Slider.  I have 4 brand new HOOVER Sliders in boxes in the garage. Also to be gifted away.  And I'll probably buy more for the same reason.  It's sad that HOOVER doesn't market these more aggressively.  Every home in the USA would have at least one.  Great for stairs too.
 
Hello Chris:
 
I can see some potential in the dyson DC16 (with improvements) for car detailing and limosine services, bus and rail lines, and even movie theaters.  But not with a 5 minute run time.   Maybe with 30 minute run time it would be attractive to the above buyers and users, at the current price.
 
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #47 - 10/21/06 at 7:41pm
 
A 5 minute charge might be ok for the limo service, as long as the limo's a mini cooper Grin
 
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Re: Dyson DC16 Root 6 Hand Held Bagless Cleaner
Reply #48 - 10/21/06 at 8:04pm
 
Hoover had to have longer battery life since it takes about 5 times longer to vacuum what Dyson does in 5 minutes.
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Reply #49 - 10/21/06 at 8:11pm
 
Did they use deep cycle batteries?
 
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