Seeing how it is really tough to get a direct statement, you are saying you agree with my statement?
"For what it is worth I think it (being air watts) is more important than many in the industry would admit but should still only be a piece of the larger puzzle."
 
But then you are claiming you and your fellow "dyson haters" always thought this and then you additionally are claiming somehow this is different than how I have always felt on the matter.
 
If you want to continue to attack a product on airwatts don't you think it would be helpful to simply state what you stand on airwatts is?
 
I did not bring it up but Airwatts seems like a pretty straight forward discussion of fact of measurement and the opinion of how that measurement should be used no need to talk in riddles or play your game of "Gotcha",  "april fools" or claiming I used to feel a different way than I did.  I took some time off this site as many such discussions disentigrate into a game of "gotcha" I simply want to discuss what your experience leads you to believe about Airwatts as you are using them alot lately.

Hello JimB:
 
If you reread my post to JD you should quickly see the point I was trying to make.  Here's a simple rephrase and clarification:  Dyson and its supporters for 5 years claimed that air watts is the quintessential being of its superior performance over the competition.  (The critics of dyson's claim, labeled dyson-haters, argued that air watts is ONLY one piece of the vacuum's performance.  Not the total package and the end all and cure all for vacuum ratings).  
 
Then, dyson proceeded to compromise the performance measure (it proclaimed to set it apart from the competition) on all subsequent models.  How?  Two ways, as I indicated in my posts several times: By reducing the air watts by one third (from the 300 on DC07 to 200 on DC18 in less than 5 years) AND removing the air watts' ratings from the USA dyson Web site for the higher air watts rated dyson models (presumably thinking that customers wouldn't notice?).  And by the way dyson just happened to charge more and more too.
 
That marketing strategy may sell well in the UK and other countries.  I think US buyers are more savvy.  
 
What part of these above facts have I misstated, are incorrect and/or you want to disagree with?  
 
Carmine D.

After my previous post, I remembered that General Electric uprights of about 1927-29, which looked very much like Premiers, were straight suction.  GE had a standard and Junior upright.
 
Didn't GE acquire Premier about 1930?
 
                                  Jim

To calculate the electrical power used in an appliance, use the following formula:
 
Power in Watts (P) = Current in Amperes (I) x Voltage (V), thus P=IxV.
 
To find the current, divide Power by Voltage: I = P/V.
 

Quote from JimB on 04/09/07 at 11:29am:

 
Hello JimB:
 
(Hopefully this is the last time I have to put this in print on the Forum.  It's getting redundant.)  
 
In response to your disagreement:  As dyson critics of what you say above (labled "haters") pointed out 5 years ago when dyson and supporters made this claim, this is only one piece of the performance equation for vacuums.  Not THE end all and cure all.  Apparently over the last 5 years dyson and its supporters have come around to agreement with the dyson critics since the dyson air watts have been reduced on every subsequent dyson model made.  And dyson eliminated the air watts' ratings from the tech specs on its US Web site.
 
Quote from JimB on 04/09/07 at 11:29am:

 
This is "buzz" and factually unsubstantiated opinion promulgated on the Forum and it originates from dyson, dyson supporters and dyson fans.  I have not seen and/or heard any authoritative industry numbers since 2004 to show that dyson still leads vacuum sales in the USA by dollars and/or units.  I have not seen/heard any authoritative industry numbers to show dyson is a better vacuum brand seller than Dirt Devil, BISSELL, HOOVER, SEARS Kenmore, and Eureka.  Just to mention a few of the better known brands that compete with dyson at the big box stores in the USA.  
 
Just the opposite is true.  I've heard that dyson sales in the USA and in the UK have decreased from year to year.  Why and how?  NPD counts new vacuum sales when the maker sells to the retailers.  Dyson sales for DC07, DC14 and DC15 models were counted as sales in 2004 (the last year dyson issued its press releases worldwide about the success of its US dyson sales).  Many of these dysons (already counted as sales) are still in stores' inventory on the shelves and being sold today by big box retailers.  Almost 3 years after the fact and the last time authoritative dyson sales numbers were substantiated by the NPD.  
 
If I missed some industry facts to the contrary on dyson sales since 2004 please share them (facts) with Forum readers.  We'd all like to know what the real dyson sales numbers were after 2004 and are today.
 
Carmine D.