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mark40511


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The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Original Message   May 12, 2011 4:55 am
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Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #1   May 12, 2011 10:56 am
I look forward to seeing Consumer Report's review.   Given the outrageous price that I was quoted for the previous generation ($2600), I can't imagine ever buying one.   I do hope they got rid of  that ridiculous trigger that you have to hold to keep the power nozzle operating.  I see that they still have the big gap/dead space (belt cover) in the middle of the power nozzle and the new apparently rotating brushes for edge cleaning.  I wonder if the Rainbow has geared belt rather than a flat one?

Given that they make all sorts of ridiculous health claims in the sales pitch, I was wondering if there's any randomized clinical trials to show any real health benefit to vacuums like the Rainbow.  

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
mark40511


Joined: Oct 4, 2007
Points: 37

Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #2   May 12, 2011 11:53 pm
I don't know. I also HATE the belt being in the middle.They did get rid of the trigger. The power is on the handle ........apparently is has 60 percent more airflow at the nozzle than the previous one. The LED light is cool too. I think it's a really cool looking machine and made well..............But I can't begin to imagine what it would cost......A shame they are so overpriced..................At least everything is dire3ct connect now. Only ONE hose to deal with making for quick changes.......................However..........I think (with my current E2) All I would need to do is buy the waterproof electric hose...... I'm thinking the hose for the newest machine will not fit the E2 so I wouldn't be able to get the newest nozzle. I want to try to aquamate 3 but I can't find many reviews on it. There are a couple of vids on ebay and it looks like it does a good job especially with extraction.  I think the aquamate 3 can also rinse...Not liking  having to use the cool water though. And then there's the Rainjet.....He said it did a good job on hard wood and was easy to use since you don't have extra hoses to change. I guess we'll see how it all goes.
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hooverman


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Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #3   May 17, 2011 5:01 pm
I hope I can use the AquaMate III or RainJet on my SE or Chrome dome?
mark40511


Joined: Oct 4, 2007
Points: 37

Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #4   May 17, 2011 7:09 pm
I don't think so Hooverman

You have to have the lastest Rainbow hose and wands which is compatible with any E series, but not prior Rainbows. I want the Rainjet too. I'm still contemplating either upgrading or trading mine.......But I HATE to trade something that is only five years old and still looks and works new........I could upgrade the hoses and wands which will fit mine......But then I would not get the LED light (coolness factor) and it wouldn't really match........I think the Rainbow unit itself is the same inside (other than more sound insulation) as the E 2 speed. ( I could be wrong) it's too new to know
mole


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Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #5   May 18, 2011 9:15 am
Severus wrote:
I look forward to seeing Consumer Report's review.   Given the outrageous price that I was quoted for the previous generation ($2600), I can't imagine ever buying one.   I do hope they got rid of  that ridiculous trigger that you have to hold to keep the power nozzle operating.  I see that they still have the big gap/dead space (belt cover) in the middle of the power nozzle and the new apparently rotating brushes for edge cleaning.  I wonder if the Rainbow has geared belt rather than a flat one?

Given that they make all sorts of ridiculous health claims in the sales pitch, I was wondering if there's any randomized clinical trials to show any real health benefit to vacuums like the Rainbow.  



I wonder how long the coolness will start GETTING -OLD,  And the consumer will let it sit in the closet, and wish they spent their money more wisely.

Rainbow is the KING of the hill at being hit and run artists. Followed closely by TRISTAR, and ocean blue.

MOLE

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #6   May 20, 2011 1:52 pm
I used a relatives old Rainbow SE last weekend to vacuum their home.   It seemed to do a good job, but it was extremely inefficient to use.   Moving the canister was like pulling a dead pig.  The pig tail connection for the power nozzle was easy to bump and disengage.  I would have had to switch to the other hose (non-electrical) to clean bare floors.  It took about twice as long to vacuum as it would have taken with an upright or more maneuverable canister.   It was difficult to empty the water receptacle.  On top of that the poles were held together by friction, and occasionally separated.  I guess Rainbow users develop a strategy to use their machines more efficiently over time, but it seemed like a pain in the butt to me. 

I suspect you could negotiate a discount on an older model Rainbow if you let them know that you know the new models are out.

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #7   Jun 7, 2011 11:06 am
Severus wrote:
I used a relatives old Rainbow SE last weekend to vacuum their home.   It seemed to do a good job, but it was extremely inefficient to use.   Moving the canister was like pulling a dead pig.  The pig tail connection for the power nozzle was easy to bump and disengage.  I would have had to switch to the other hose (non-electrical) to clean bare floors.  It took about twice as long to vacuum as it would have taken with an upright or more maneuverable canister.   It was difficult to empty the water receptacle.  On top of that the poles were held together by friction, and occasionally separated.  I guess Rainbow users develop a strategy to use their machines more efficiently over time, but it seemed like a pain in the butt to me. 

I suspect you could negotiate a discount on an older model Rainbow if you let them know that you know the new models are out.



Hi Severus,

There are some vacuums that seem to live on legend here.  Rainbow and Kirby being two examples.  There are machines that clean as well, filter as well for less money.  Also, by today's standards, even thisnewest Rainbow does not fit the times.  Maybe back ithe day when there were stay-at home moms, who could manage time for fiddling around with complex machinery.

What's more called for are vacuums that are good to go straight out of the broom closet and require no time consumng maintenance.  Considering economics, work requirements and even scheduled play-dates, the lives of people in general seemed way more involved than forty years ago.

I remain surprised, considering the cost of a Rainbow, that the company is still afloat.  I've been doing demos for a well-known brand of vacuum since the late spring and am surprised that customers scream over 299 bucks for a basic model. I've never seen spending on a vacuum as serious until after the first 500 bcks.  That there are annually enough people stil willing to shell out over $1,500 for a Rainbow and keep the company going  is really something in light of that.

I've seen teh new PN and all I give RAinbow credit for is originality.  At least they don't run to Wessel Werks for outsourced goods -- I hope.

Best,

Venson

vacmanuk


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Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #8   Jun 8, 2011 11:19 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Severus,

There are some vacuums that seem to live on legend here.  Rainbow and Kirby being two examples.  There are machines that clean as well, filter as well for less money.  Also, by today's standards, even thisnewest Rainbow does not fit the times.  Maybe back ithe day when there were stay-at home moms, who could manage time for fiddling around with complex machinery.

What's more called for are vacuums that are good to go straight out of the broom closet and require no time consumng maintenance.  Considering economics, work requirements and even scheduled play-dates, the lives of people in general seemed way more involved than forty years ago.

I remain surprised, considering the cost of a Rainbow, that the company is still afloat.  I've been doing demos for a well-known brand of vacuum since the late spring and am surprised that customers scream over 299 bucks for a basic model. I've never seen spending on a vacuum as serious until after the first 500 bcks.  That there are annually enough people stil willing to shell out over $1,500 for a Rainbow and keep the company going  is really something in light of that.

I've seen teh new PN and all I give RAinbow credit for is originality.  At least they don't run to Wessel Werks for outsourced goods -- I hope.

Best,

Venson


Well said Venson - though I always assumed that the Kirby only had filtration built into the bags and nothing else?

As a part time struggling high school teacher who works on average more than the 12 days a day routine, when I come home the last thing I want to do is vacuum. Much as I enjoy doing it when I'm not on my feet all day, I just rely on my hopelessly small but rather convienient cordless hand vac. Gets the dirt I can see and then later on after Ive relaxed, a quick breeze around with something that just works with tools to hand.
Mister_Bojack


Joined: Jul 15, 2008
Points: 25

Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #9   Aug 27, 2011 2:13 pm
Mark,

what is your opinion on the machine's suction compared to other e series models?

I read somewhere that there is an optional longer electric hose available for this machine. Would be nice if this machine had enough airflow to to handle a longer hose.

mark40511


Joined: Oct 4, 2007
Points: 37

Re: The Newly Desingned Rainbow is here
Reply #10   Aug 30, 2011 6:04 am
I think *it's" the same as the brushless 2 speed E series (which is what I own) and the suction on mine is great using the long 14 foot non-electric hose that I bought with mine.

But the electric hose that comes with this Rainbow is a foot longer than previous ones, but they do have an option to get the longer one.

I would think since they updated the PN, the longer hose would be fine
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