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I hope I can use the AquaMate III or RainJet on my SE or Chrome dome?

I don't think so Hooverman

You have to have the lastest Rainbow hose and wands which is compatible with any E series, but not prior Rainbows. I want the Rainjet too. I'm still contemplating either upgrading or trading mine.......But I HATE to trade something that is only five years old and still looks and works new........I could upgrade the hoses and wands which will fit mine......But then I would not get the LED light (coolness factor) and it wouldn't really match........I think the Rainbow unit itself is the same inside (other than more sound insulation) as the E 2 speed. ( I could be wrong) it's too new to know

Severus wrote:

I wonder how long the coolness will start GETTING -OLD,  And the consumer will let it sit in the closet, and wish they spent their money more wisely.

Rainbow is the KING of the hill at being hit and run artists. Followed closely by TRISTAR, and ocean blue.

MOLE

I used a relatives old Rainbow SE last weekend to vacuum their home.   It seemed to do a good job, but it was extremely inefficient to use.   Moving the canister was like pulling a dead pig.  The pig tail connection for the power nozzle was easy to bump and disengage.  I would have had to switch to the other hose (non-electrical) to clean bare floors.  It took about twice as long to vacuum as it would have taken with an upright or more maneuverable canister.   It was difficult to empty the water receptacle.  On top of that the poles were held together by friction, and occasionally separated.  I guess Rainbow users develop a strategy to use their machines more efficiently over time, but it seemed like a pain in the butt to me. 

I suspect you could negotiate a discount on an older model Rainbow if you let them know that you know the new models are out.

Severus wrote:

Hi Severus,

There are some vacuums that seem to live on legend here.  Rainbow and Kirby being two examples.  There are machines that clean as well, filter as well for less money.  Also, by today's standards, even thisnewest Rainbow does not fit the times.  Maybe back ithe day when there were stay-at home moms, who could manage time for fiddling around with complex machinery.

What's more called for are vacuums that are good to go straight out of the broom closet and require no time consumng maintenance.  Considering economics, work requirements and even scheduled play-dates, the lives of people in general seemed way more involved than forty years ago.

I remain surprised, considering the cost of a Rainbow, that the company is still afloat.  I've been doing demos for a well-known brand of vacuum since the late spring and am surprised that customers scream over 299 bucks for a basic model. I've never seen spending on a vacuum as serious until after the first 500 bcks.  That there are annually enough people stil willing to shell out over $1,500 for a Rainbow and keep the company going  is really something in light of that.

I've seen teh new PN and all I give RAinbow credit for is originality.  At least they don't run to Wessel Werks for outsourced goods -- I hope.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:
Well said Venson - though I always assumed that the Kirby only had filtration built into the bags and nothing else?

As a part time struggling high school teacher who works on average more than the 12 days a day routine, when I come home the last thing I want to do is vacuum. Much as I enjoy doing it when I'm not on my feet all day, I just rely on my hopelessly small but rather convienient cordless hand vac. Gets the dirt I can see and then later on after Ive relaxed, a quick breeze around with something that just works with tools to hand.

Mark,

what is your opinion on the machine's suction compared to other e series models?

I read somewhere that there is an optional longer electric hose available for this machine. Would be nice if this machine had enough airflow to to handle a longer hose.

I think *it's" the same as the brushless 2 speed E series (which is what I own) and the suction on mine is great using the long 14 foot non-electric hose that I bought with mine.

But the electric hose that comes with this Rainbow is a foot longer than previous ones, but they do have an option to get the longer one.

I would think since they updated the PN, the longer hose would be fine

mark40511 wrote:

If I ever wanted to own one again I think I'd opt for an older rebuilt. I always did appreciate the curved wand for getting at stuff high and overhead on woodwork and shelving. I like too that they still provide a 14-inch bare floor option and the longer hose.

Best I can say is that the new machine appears to stylistically lean toward competing with Roboclean and Delphin, also high-priced but imported water-type canisters. (Don't know if they are proving to be real competition here.

A lot of the selling aspect seems to rest on word play. What to the rest of us is just a plain old HEPA filter is a HEPA Neutralizer to Rainbow. But I am really put off by Rainbow's website to-good-to-be-true claim: "This unique water filtration system captures 99.997% (by weight) of typical household dirt. Remaining microscopic particles are caught by our HEPA Neutralizer Filtration System. This two-stage filtration combination removes nearly 100% of dirt and contaminants."

However, Rainbow has impressed me in that its updated website now supplies manuals in PDF form for Rainbows new and older plus manuals for many of the options and add-ons. See the following link for the new cleaner's user guide.

http://rainbowsystem.com/uploads/manuals/Rainbow_e2_2011_R13999A-1_English_Non-Pro.pdf

What escapes me , considering the price, is why a real convenience like a cord winder installed on the motor unit still has not been built in.

Venson

Venson

About the too-good-to-be-true claim


Let me say this and I'm totally being honest. I've taken my hepa off several times over the past five plus years and inspected it on both sides and the thing is still freaking snow white and even still smells good..........I clean the separator and change the water about every 20 to 30 min's......before it gets too dirty........ I even took the hepa off and ran the machine without it to see if I could feel an increase in power and didn't.....(at least nothing noticeable). I keep thinking I should buy a new hepa for it but it's still like new..........I think that in of itself is pretty amazing, considering some of the dirt I've sucked up over those years. I still like my bagged Lux vacuum.......but I still wouldn't be without my Rainbow. I love it. I wish I could justify upgrading to the new one.........but I can't. What I have is still in fantastic condition, even though I've used it a lot. I wonder if this is just the case of me being to anal about changing the water and taking care of it that other folks may get tired of doing is why we see so many rainbows full of caked on dirt inside? Perhaps. I dunno