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adamlau


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Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Original Message   Apr 2, 2011 6:20 am
To shampoo the carpet only, would the Avalir (based experiences with the Sentria and past Kirby models) be as effective as the X3 and/or vice-versa?


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Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #8   Apr 5, 2011 4:19 pm
Before the popularity of the "steam cleaning" machines for residential use,  I used the dry foam method.  I cleaned my carpeting w/ Kirby's rug renovator and received fine results.  The secret is to know how to do it and do it right.  If it is done correctly, there should be no problem of sticky carpeting and/or soil buildup.  The same can be said w/ the wet "steam cleaning" method.  If it is not done correctly, you can get back results.
procare


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #9   Apr 5, 2011 7:05 pm
Mike W,

    You are right in what you said about capet cleaning. The correct term about the so called steam cleaning is hot water extraction. It had been found  that real steam would damage the carpets made of synthetic fibers. One does not clean a cotton, wool, wool blend carpet with hot water extraction cleaners. Do it yourselfers have the following companies to get Shampooers that are best to use on carpets. Aerus Floor Pro, Kirby , ,and Tristar ( Aerus Floor Pro) . The Host dry powder does work but only if the people have a good cleaner to pick up the powder. Not all vacuums can clean well enough to get it out.

  When someone says a sticky residue  is left you have to ask what brand of detergent is used . Over 95% of all shampooes leave a sticky residue. Even the Steamers do. Aerus, Kirby, and Von Schrader shampooes don't leave a sticky residue.

If the pictures  that are on the U.S. Patent for Kirby is any indication of what is to come they will use  2 srushes instead of the one they have now. I find it surprising to see a power head attachment. It is logical tho tyo go where the upright can't  go like under the bed and some furniture. Interesting stuff. All patent info is 2005-2010..

                                                                                                                           Procare

Trebor


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #10   Apr 8, 2011 4:27 pm
Just,

When you try the G series shampooer, remember one capful of Kirby shampoo is enough, 1 and 1/3 if the water is hard. The suds have to be dry enough to foam, but wet enough to clean, and be picked up in the tray. Too dry, no cleaning, too wet, not enough pickup.
Rinsing with an extractor with plain water and vinegar greatly enhances soil and suds removal.
vacmanuk


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #11   Apr 9, 2011 9:54 am
Anyone actually tried the Sebo DUO P machine? I noticed a video on You Tube that the machine is used before wet extraction - but it is only supposed to be used with the Duo P dry powder. I use the powder a lot - can't be done with using heavy machines to wet over a wool carpet.
Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #12   Apr 11, 2011 1:31 pm
Trebor wrote:
Just,

When you try the G series shampooer, remember one capful of Kirby shampoo is enough, 1 and 1/3 if the water is hard. The suds have to be dry enough to foam, but wet enough to clean, and be picked up in the tray. Too dry, no cleaning, too wet, not enough pickup.
Rinsing with an extractor with plain water and vinegar greatly enhances soil and suds removal.

Actually, if it is "too dry", it means that it is too concentrated and will result in sticky carpeting.  This will result in quick soiling of the carpeting.  If the proper amount of solution is applied adequately, oils, soil, will be removed.  Some will enter the tray, while the remaining will be vacuumed up after the rug is dry.
Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #13   Apr 11, 2011 1:38 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Anyone actually tried the Sebo DUO P machine? I noticed a video on You Tube that the machine is used before wet extraction - but it is only supposed to be used with the Duo P dry powder. I use the powder a lot - can't be done with using heavy machines to wet over a wool carpet.

I have used the many different dry powders and liked the results.  What I do not like is the price tag.  Cleaning a room, or home, can be expensive.  What I have always suggested is use the powder for spot/area cleaning.  It is easy to apply and remove.  Small applications will not hurt the wallet that much.
Trebor


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #14   Apr 11, 2011 5:21 pm
I don't know what a professional Host service provider would charge, but I have charged 50.00/ room plus the cost of the Host, pre-spotter, and machine rental and never had anyone complain. They are pleased at the look and feel pf the carpet, no worry about rust or wood stains, and no downtime. It's worth a little more.  We now have a Host provider in town. I think they will make their presence known in market share.
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #15   Apr 11, 2011 6:59 pm
Mike_W wrote:
I have used the many different dry powders and liked the results.  What I do not like is the price tag.  Cleaning a room, or home, can be expensive.  What I have always suggested is use the powder for spot/area cleaning.  It is easy to apply and remove.  Small applications will not hurt the wallet that much.

I would not want to vacuum a whole house with an oreck if I used a dry powder.
CarmineD


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #16   Apr 11, 2011 7:53 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I would not want to vacuum a whole house with an oreck if I used a dry powder.


My ORECK XL works like a charm on dry powder.  Not so my dyson DC07.  Terrible.  Left more behind than it picked up. 

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #17   Apr 11, 2011 9:01 pm
Mike_W wrote:
I have used the many different dry powders and liked the results.  What I do not like is the price tag.  Cleaning a room, or home, can be expensive.  What I have always suggested is use the powder for spot/area cleaning.  It is easy to apply and remove.  Small applications will not hurt the wallet that much.

Interesting.. well, here's a question - open to anyone of course - is there a dry powder treatment on the market that can be watered down, either used dry or wet, thus giving it more versatility?
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