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adamlau
Location: Los Angeles
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Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Original Message Apr 2, 2011 6:20 am |
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To shampoo the carpet only, would the Avalir (based experiences with the Sentria and past Kirby models) be as effective as the X3 and/or vice-versa?
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adamlau
Location: Los Angeles
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #2 Apr 2, 2011 3:29 pm |
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So an extractor is still required after the shampoo...
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iMacDaddy
Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #4 Apr 3, 2011 7:19 pm |
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If you choose to go with a separate extractor, I'd would recommend that you go for the new Bissell BigGreen upright over the Rug Doctor. As an owner, I can vouch for how well this machine performs. It is really built solid, does a great job at removing sand and grit from the carpet knap, and carpets are dry in around an 1.5 - 2 hours. It also has a 5 year warranty. They go for $600 at Lowes, or sometimes lower on HSN. I think the Bissell is easier to use than the Rug Doctor, and leaves the carpet far less saturated than the Mighty Pack/Wide Track machines I've rented in the past.
This message was modified Apr 3, 2011 by iMacDaddy
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Just
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #5 Apr 4, 2011 4:25 pm |
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I must preface with the fact that I have been a Kirby fan since practically birth. Mom said I learned to walk pushing a Kirby. With that said, I don't care for Kirby's shampoo system. It leaves a sticky residue, it wets the carpet too much in my opinion. For those that use the Kirby then an extractor, that would be the best of both worlds, except it is a lot of extra work, and you still have to deal with the foam in the extractor pan. I would just use a good extractor with a scrubbing brush and save the Kirby for what it's best at . Deep cleaning vacuuming. As for the Avalir, I was not aware that model had been released by Kirby yet, so am hence unable to comment on the machine itself, but past Kirbys have been long lasting, but on the expensive side. My rule is "Never pay Retail" Never. There is asking and what they will take price, usually somewhere in between half.
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Trebor
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #6 Apr 4, 2011 7:41 pm |
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Just, I too learned to walk pushing a Kirby. I never cared for the shampoo system until the G series. The tank holds more solution, the suds control is a major plus. The suds wet the carpet less than an extractor, especially if time is taken to let the brush pick up all the suds it can. Best results are obtained when shampooing about a 4'x4' area at a time, scrubbing and picking up as you go. Once a carpet is really clean 3 pints is enough to maintain a 12' x 15' area, and approximately 50% of that is picked up in the tray. less than one gallon is needed to rinse, and about 75% of that can be recovered, so just under 4 pints, 64 ounces, are left in 180 square feet of carpet, about 1/3 of an ounce of liquid per square foot. The key phrases here are once the carpet is clean and maintaining. Dirty carpet takes more suds, more scrubbing and more liquid, and a longer drying time, but the Kirby followed by extraction can do an excellent job, surpassed only by the dry host system, in my opinion. Trebor
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procare
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #9 Apr 5, 2011 7:05 pm |
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Mike W, You are right in what you said about capet cleaning. The correct term about the so called steam cleaning is hot water extraction. It had been found that real steam would damage the carpets made of synthetic fibers. One does not clean a cotton, wool, wool blend carpet with hot water extraction cleaners. Do it yourselfers have the following companies to get Shampooers that are best to use on carpets. Aerus Floor Pro, Kirby , ,and Tristar ( Aerus Floor Pro) . The Host dry powder does work but only if the people have a good cleaner to pick up the powder. Not all vacuums can clean well enough to get it out. When someone says a sticky residue is left you have to ask what brand of detergent is used . Over 95% of all shampooes leave a sticky residue. Even the Steamers do. Aerus, Kirby, and Von Schrader shampooes don't leave a sticky residue. If the pictures that are on the U.S. Patent for Kirby is any indication of what is to come they will use 2 srushes instead of the one they have now. I find it surprising to see a power head attachment. It is logical tho tyo go where the upright can't go like under the bed and some furniture. Interesting stuff. All patent info is 2005-2010.. Procare
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Trebor
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #10 Apr 8, 2011 4:27 pm |
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Just,
When you try the G series shampooer, remember one capful of Kirby shampoo is enough, 1 and 1/3 if the water is hard. The suds have to be dry enough to foam, but wet enough to clean, and be picked up in the tray. Too dry, no cleaning, too wet, not enough pickup. Rinsing with an extractor with plain water and vinegar greatly enhances soil and suds removal.
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"There is no BEST or PERFECT vacuum cleaner"
"Take care of your vacuum, then your vacuum will take care of you"
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #12 Apr 11, 2011 1:31 pm |
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Just,
When you try the G series shampooer, remember one capful of Kirby shampoo is enough, 1 and 1/3 if the water is hard. The suds have to be dry enough to foam, but wet enough to clean, and be picked up in the tray. Too dry, no cleaning, too wet, not enough pickup. Rinsing with an extractor with plain water and vinegar greatly enhances soil and suds removal.
Actually, if it is "too dry", it means that it is too concentrated and will result in sticky carpeting. This will result in quick soiling of the carpeting. If the proper amount of solution is applied adequately, oils, soil, will be removed. Some will enter the tray, while the remaining will be vacuumed up after the rug is dry.
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CarmineD
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #16 Apr 11, 2011 7:53 pm |
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I would not want to vacuum a whole house with an oreck if I used a dry powder. My ORECK XL works like a charm on dry powder. Not so my dyson DC07. Terrible. Left more behind than it picked up.
Carmine D.
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vacmanuk
Location: Scotland UK
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Re: Future Buy: Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3 vs. Kirby Avalir?
Reply #17 Apr 11, 2011 9:01 pm |
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I have used the many different dry powders and liked the results. What I do not like is the price tag. Cleaning a room, or home, can be expensive. What I have always suggested is use the powder for spot/area cleaning. It is easy to apply and remove. Small applications will not hurt the wallet that much. Interesting.. well, here's a question - open to anyone of course - is there a dry powder treatment on the market that can be watered down, either used dry or wet, thus giving it more versatility?
This message was modified Apr 11, 2011 by vacmanuk
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