Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi,

Which? magazine has just made a preliminary announcement re the Sebo D series vacuums.  Bags being my preference, I was pleased to read that the D series sports a 6-liter bag (about a gallon and a half).  The airbelt is a little wasted on me as I've never had problems with marring furniture.  However, if it will keep the machine itself from looking like it belongs in a second-hand shop for a few years I'm all for it.

Which? plans to test the D series soon.

The story is here: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/07/new-vacs-with-bumpers-to-protect-your-furniture-219804

Venson

Updated observations...Versus the Miele Capricorn (parquet vs. parquet), we prefer the SEBO Premium Parquet Brush #7200DG to the Miele SBB300 Parquet Floor Brush. While the #7200DG is not nearly as spry and mobile as the SBB300, it does a much better job of picking up heavier particulates. Our testbed of debris included cut strands of 12 AWG wire and small pebbles of varying weights. Construction debris of such nature is the norm in our home and not the exception. YMMV, of course. The failure of the SB300 to match the #7200DG in pickup is likely attributed (at least in part) to the relatively deep and wide grooves of the SB300 brush strips. These open cutouts are sized to where the partial vacuum state at the head of the tool is reduced and volume flow is lessened. Larger, heavier debris is engulfed, but not picked up. Compounding this loss is the greater channel area between the front and rear brushes. The #7200DG has a much narrower debris channel which serves to better focus suction towards the nozzle opening. Bottom line is that the #7200DG succeeded with heavier particulates where the SB300 would often fail outright.

The dearth of media outlets detailing various SEBO accessories prompted me to cobble the following pictorial together...Radiator Brush #1496DG (Dark Gray) attached to Crevice Tool #8066GS. I consider Radiator Brush #1496DG an essential accessory as the onboard Dusting Brush #8146ER is overly stubby and obtuse to perform tasks where both vertical and horizontal space is limited (an all too common occurence in a typical household). Horsehair bristles are resilient, yet not excessively stiff. Recommended to use with caution on delicate items. Debros tends to lodge and accumulate between the brush and the crevice tool.

Hand-held Turbo Brush #6179DA (Dark Gray) profiles and internals. High-pitched, very high volume (i.e. loud) whine is accompanied by impressive brush rotation and suction. Compares favorably, if not superior to the Dyson Mini Turbine 915034-02 off a DC28 Animal. Simple, intuitive maintenance procedure, cogged belt drive, self-leveling head (great feature), nylon bristles shorter than I would have preferred. Brush roll and belt appear to be the primary wear items. Does anyone know what tools are required to remove the brush roll?

9-Foot Extension Hose #1495AM is slightly narrower than the D4 power hose (with its internal electrical cord) and is offered in a darker shade of grey. Standard friction fit on the accessory tool end, flexible rubber friction fit on the wand end provides for an excellent air seal and will also accommodate Miele wands without issue.

The ET-2 #9958AM (not yet listed on the SEBO America website) is what should have been offered with the D4 Premium. Not only does it perform the job faster than the ET-1, its longer extension allows it to cover additional area around obstacles. The ET-2 is also more stable when parked upright than its little brother. Heavier than its brethren, but then again, that is what the gym is for. That said, we leave the ET-2 upstairs to tackle carpeted hallway and bedroom chores while the ET-1 handles entry rugs and carpeted guest rooms downstairs. Offhand, we may decide to opt for an S7 Bolero in the near future (it handles beautifully) and relegate the ET-1 to an eBay sale.

Lets see now,

really nothing new. Same old junk attachments, cheap hose, handle grips that break off ,pigtail cords that short out, Telescopic wands that dont lock,

Sebo should stick to the X series uprights.

regards

MOLE

mole wrote:

While they look and feel sturdy enough, the SEBO attachments do not appear to be as refined in finish as those offered by others.

The inclusion of wire reinforcement and replaceable hose ends (particularly at the wand end) would be our only gripes at the moment.

Would this not also be the case for any protruding handle of injection molded plastic? Or is there a higher incidence of failure with SEBO handles?

Would you attribute this to wire insulation which readily abrades (owing to its exposure), poor soldering at connections, or both?

We have not yet experienced this and will be keeping an eye out for excessive detent wear. That said, what other canister alternatives would you recommend?

Since SEBO's new bag design in the D series, similar to the Felix, SEBO are bringing out better filtration bags. The new material bags are similar to the D series and will be available for the Felix and X series. They will be a bit more expensive than they are, so watch this space!

FOR 2012, there are a couple of new SEBO releases. Firstly, a commercial version of the D canister, called "Professional D" and comes with a manual cord. It is pretty similar to the standard D range with a few changes. In Germany there are two models with different floors, the D7 has a parquet brush, the D8 has the standard heavy duty 2 way suction only floor head. The bottom cord hook (metal hook) also pushes into a recess when not required and easily pulls out to accept the bottom part of the cord when putting/storing the vacuum away. SEBO have also installed better quality commercial grade castors compared to those featured on the domestic market D series.

The machine's radius of action of 15.5 metres gives greater manoeuvrability without the user having to find another socket closer to the area being cleaned, and the six litre filter bag (the machine offers high quality S class filtration) gives increased capacity and makes this unit more economical to use. Improved air channels and conical hose produce a higher suction power, the patented Airbelt protects furniture and walls, while the innovative cable winder facilitates fast and tidy storage. Other features include a movable twist and tip joint, ergonomic handle and smooth start-up for longer life and a 'cold-socket' solution that enables the connecting cable to be replaced quickly if needed.








Other release - The FELIX range of uprights receives a new similar Turbo fan motor from the D series, making it quieter. That's all I know folks, but as usual I'll keep you posted!

Thanks vacmanuk! Venson

Thanks Vacmanuk for the Sebo information. 

I have a Sebo Felix and really like it, will watch out for the new motor in the Felix next year.   I do like the D Series and X Series, was thinking of getting a Sebo X4 I take it there is no plans to change the X Series?   I'm really impressed with Sebo and how the brush roll on the Felix power head grooms the carpet better than other brands I've used in the past.   

DC18

DC18 wrote:
No problem DC - just keeping my ear to the ground and watching the web

My Felix is now six years old and looks pretty much abused, even though it still has that cream navy look to it and an ice blue wrap I prefer to the dark navy blue that came with it originally. However my Felix is noisier than most, having tried new ones in John Lewis stores, UK, but I think that's down to its age and if it isn't broke, there's no point in replacing it sadly.

Ive asked SEBO when they would update the X series, but they don't have any plans. It's a classic upright that does most things well, but could do with a variable suction dial like the Felix and a brush stop roll function. Perhaps their future traditional upright will have that. I have an X4 but my mum has the X1.1 and there's not much of a difference, really except of course just a slight hike of power.

http://www.sebo.co.uk/support/downloads/brochures/Professional_D_Brochure.pdf

UK brochure now available at SEBO UK.