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Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Original Message   Jul 2, 2010 1:18 am
Is it TTI or still Panasonic?
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Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #43   Mar 30, 2011 2:43 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Mike W.:

How about vacuum parts and supplies for panos/SEARS?  Any made in Japan?

As of yesterday, almost ALL Japanese auto production and the large majority of auto parts and suppliers have closed down [no date for restarting].  We have already seen and heard that Ford Motor in Detroit is telling its customers that they can't order tuxedo black finish vehicles due to the earthquake/tsunami.  And to make matters worse the International Monetary Fund said Japan was at the brink of a financial tsunami due to its enormous debt BEFORE the latest tragic and sad events. 

Carmine D.


Why not do a search and find out.  Know where their facilities are located. Panasonic was spared more than some other companies.  You would then find out which Pana factories were damaged, where and what they produced.  You check out Business Week, WSJ, etc. more than me, as I have pointed out before.  Some of that stuff you are writing has been on the nightly news since the disaster. 

Actually, before you brought this thread up yesterday, last time I posted was before the disaster in Japan.  And it was not about the disaster or parts.  So, what is it you are having a problem with?
CarmineD


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #44   Mar 30, 2011 3:46 pm
Mike_W wrote:
Why not do a search and find out.  Know where their facilities are located. Panasonic was spared more than some other companies.  You would then find out which Pana factories were damaged, where and what they produced.  You check out Business Week, WSJ, etc. more than me, as I have pointed out before.  Some of that stuff you are writing has been on the nightly news since the disaster. 

Actually, before you brought this thread up yesterday, last time I posted was before the disaster in Japan.  And it was not about the disaster or parts.  So, what is it you are having a problem with?



So, who's not answering questions now Mike W.?

Unlike me who is not in the know, you're the expert Mike W. as you like to say and tell us here.  Always anxious to get your lucid perspective on these matters that you have expertise in and on. 

Don't assume BTW, that I haven't done my homework and researched already.  As I said, don't jump to conclusions that are flat out wrong as you are prone to do. 

BTW, you may want to check those phones to SEARS and Panasonic and make sure they are working.   

Carmine D.

Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #45   Mar 31, 2011 4:28 am
CarmineD wrote:

So, who's not answering questions now Mike W.?

Unlike me who is not in the know, you're the expert Mike W. as you like to say and tell us here.  Always anxious to get your lucid perspective on these matters that you have expertise in and on. 

Don't assume BTW, that I haven't done my homework and researched already.  As I said, don't jump to conclusions that are flat out wrong as you are prone to do. 

BTW, you may want to check those phones to SEARS and Panasonic and make sure they are working.   

Carmine D.


Carmine, as you and others can read, on this thread,  I made comments like

Mike_W wrote:
 Actually, before you brought this thread up yesterday, last time I posted was before the disaster in Japan.  And it was not about the disaster or parts.  So, what is it you are having a problem with?

I also said, "I tend to not post if I do not know". 

You see, I am not going to fill up space just talking  assumptions.  I did not come back to this thread to talk about the earthquake.  You are the one who got me to talk about this subject of Panasonic/Kenmore/earthquake. Now think about when I make comments to you.  You have already made comments w/o my help.  Maybe you should not say anything and see what happens.  Try it. 

What you should have done was come back to this thread and told me I was wrong about the comments I made a while back.  "No Mike, LG TTI, and the others do not make vacuum cleaners for Sears." But I would have to be wrong about it.   I do believe someone even made a positive remark to my chiming in.

As for the "expert" thing, well you told me and many others, on the previous forum, to this one, and I think ivacuumcleaners.com also that I was an expert and that I was quite knowledgeable. 
CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #46   Mar 31, 2011 7:11 am
Mike_W wrote:
I also said, "I tend to not post if I do not know". 

You see, I am not going to fill up space just talking  assumptions.  I did not come back to this thread to talk about the earthquake.  You are the one who got me to talk about this subject of Panasonic/Kenmore/earthquake. Now think about when I make comments to you.  You have already made comments w/o my help.  Maybe you should not say anything and see what happens.  Try it. 

What you should have done was come back to this thread and told me I was wrong about the comments I made a while back.  "No Mike, LG TTI, and the others do not make vacuum cleaners for Sears." But I would have to be wrong about it.   I do believe someone even made a positive remark to my chiming in.

As for the "expert" thing, well you told me and many others, on the previous forum, to this one, and I think ivacuumcleaners.com also that I was an expert and that I was quite knowledgeable. 


While you are waiting for your telephones to ring, Deutsche Bank cut its estimate of toyota's profit in the fiscal year beginning April 1 by 84 percent.  It also cut its forecast for Honda's fiscal 2012 profit by 50 %, and Nissan's by 79 %.  I think it has something to do with the March 11 shock waves that the earthquake caused in the global supply chain. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #47   Mar 31, 2011 7:14 am
Mike_W wrote:
As for the "expert" thing, well you told me and many others, on the previous forum, to this one, and I think ivacuumcleaners.com also that I was an expert and that I was quite knowledgeable. 



Don't believe everything you read .  You have since proved me wrong.  I'll admit it.

Carmine D.

Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #48   Apr 1, 2011 4:55 pm

CarmineD wrote:
Hello Mike W.:

How about vacuum parts and supplies for panos/SEARS?  Any made in Japan?

As of yesterday, almost ALL Japanese auto production and the large majority of auto parts and suppliers have closed down [no date for restarting].  We have already seen and heard that Ford Motor in Detroit is telling its customers that they can't order tuxedo black finish vehicles due to the earthquake/tsunami.  And to make matters worse the International Monetary Fund said Japan was at the brink of a financial tsunami due to its enormous debt BEFORE the latest tragic and sad events. 

Carmine D.


CarmineD wrote:
While you are waiting for your telephones to ring, Deutsche Bank cut its estimate of toyota's profit in the fiscal year beginning April 1 by 84 percent.  It also cut its forecast for Honda's fiscal 2012 profit by 50 %, and Nissan's by 79 %.  I think it has something to do with the March 11 shock waves that the earthquake caused in the global supply chain. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #49   Apr 2, 2011 7:54 am
Mike_W wrote:
I also said, "I tend to not post if I do not know". 

You see, I am not going to fill up space just talking  assumptions.
  I did not come back to this thread to talk about the earthquake.  You are the one who got me to talk about this subject of Panasonic/Kenmore/earthquake. Now think about when I make comments to you.  You have already made comments w/o my help.  Maybe you should not say anything and see what happens.  Try it. 

What you should have done was come back to this thread and told me I was wrong about the comments I made a while back.  "No Mike, LG TTI, and the others do not make vacuum cleaners for Sears." But I would have to be wrong about it.   I do believe someone even made a positive remark to my chiming in.

As for the "expert" thing, well you told me and many others, on the previous forum, to this one, and I think ivacuumcleaners.com also that I was an expert and that I was quite knowledgeable. 


Mike_W wrote:

 Well, we knew that Techtronics Industries received a contract to create vacuum cleaners for Sears' Kenmore line.  Over the summer they started w/the budget Kenmore bagless upright that was often on sale for approx. $69.99.  Now they have gone "full force" and introduced alot more TTI-made machines to Sears.  TTI has made approximately 10 models for Sears.  I have to say that it is sad to see the many new vacuum cleaners and very little of the Matsus h ita-made uprights.

IMHO, these new vacuum cleaners are not like what Sears has had in the past.  You can have a better understanding of what I mean as you touch the vacuum cleaners.  The design of these uprights makes the vacuums look large.  Their "handle weight" is going to be on the heavier side.  There are different bagless configurations, including one using the same dual filtering chambers as the DD Reaction.  There are even bagged versions called Progressive.  I have to say that this series is alittle bit harder to maneuver than the Panasonic-made uprights.  They are also louder, IMHO.  There are a few things that I do like and that is that they do have power.  They were not weak at all.  They will do fine at cleaning carpeting if the vacuum cleaner is maintained.  The rug/floor pedal(on some models) is a big improvement over the design of the Panasonic uprights.  The brushroll stops/starts w/only a simple press of the pedel, whereas the Panasonic requires a quick and steady press of the pedel.  Some owners had difficulty w/the feature, which lead to broken belts.

I have to say that one of the models is interesting.  It is called the Premalite.  It is the most espensive of all the TTI uprights It is an interesting design and looks futuristic.  It uses a different filtering system compared to the other machines in the line.  I like the fact that all one needs to do for above the floor cleaning is to release the wand.  There are no hoses to switch, attach, wands to extend, etc.  The Premalite has many "bells & whistles".




Mike_W wrote:

The Kenmore Premalite is a vacuum cleaner that will go far.  This full sized upright is not heavy at all.  What is also important is that there is no "handle weight" when the handle is lowered for carpet cleaning.  Wow!  This upright can be pushed w/one finger.  The "handle weight" can be compared w/Tacony Corps. Riccar Supralite/Simplicity Freedom uprights.  It is so easy to push and pull across the carpeting. 

This upright has a smaller footprint compared to other uprights.  Its largest/widest part is the cleaning head(front).  It helps to give the illusion of a smaller machine.  The Premalite uses a smaller motor to drive the brushroll.  The brushroll and motor are connected by a belt that will not need to be changed for a long time.

The hose fits nicely behind the aluminum wand when stored.  The wand is very comfortable to use, but it may take some getting use to.  I say this, since it is slightly curved.  There is a plastic ring at the bottom of the wand, but this is not a bad thing.  I made mention of the advantages of a plastic end of a wand in the past.  Running a metal wand over some surfaces can scratch.  Having a plastic piece running over some surfaces will do less harm.  Also, having a plastic ring at the end will help the wand to keep its shape.  There are some instances where the end of an aluminum wand can get bent when it is hit against a hard surface.  This does happen, since not everyone babies their vacuum cleaners.  The plastic ring will help w/the problem.

The mini turbo brush attachment does work well on the Premalite.  It was able to clean surfaces w/o slowing down.  The other attachments are not anything special, but the dusting brush/upholstry attachment does have decent bristles though.  I do not believe that there is a floor brush w/this vacuum cleaner.

Kenmore's Premalite will be a vacuum cleaner that people will not mind using.  The introductory price tag is rather high for a "big box" vacuum cleaner, but like I have seen over the decades, the price will fall after a while.  They ALL  do!  The vacuum is already on sale this week.



No Mike, I figured [wrongly] that you would find out the truth yourself sooner or later about the SEARS Premalite, I didn't have to call you out on it here publicly.  Sadly I was wrong.  The experience did not humble you.  Instead just the opposite.  Righteously you pound your chest here justified with your badge and censor keys.  So, you have to learn a life lesson the hard way.  And... I'm the one to do it.

BTW, do you care to share with us what you know now about the SEARS Premalite now and what happened to that $400 plus China made and SEARS sold upright?

Carmine D.

PS:  "....for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled,
and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

This message was modified Apr 2, 2011 by CarmineD
Moderator Mike_W


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #50   Apr 2, 2011 11:50 pm
CarmineD wrote:

No Mike, I figured [wrongly] that you would find out the truth yourself sooner or later about the SEARS Premalite, I didn't have to call you out on it here publicly.  Sadly I was wrong.  The experience did not humble you.  Instead just the opposite.  Righteously you pound your chest here justified with your badge and censor keys.  So, you have to learn a life lesson the hard way.  And... I'm the one to do it.

BTW, do you care to share with us what you know now about the SEARS Premalite now and what happened to that $400 plus China made and SEARS sold upright?

Carmine D.

PS:  "....for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled,
and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”


You really are something Carmine.  To this day, I stand behind the Premalite as a good bagless upright.  The features of the machine I stand behind.  There is no filter, in the bin, to clean out.  I did not care for the price.  I cannot help if someone else does not like something I praise.  I thought I said something similar a day or two ago. What did you say about it, from the beginning? Shall I go back and check?   Even as I originally wrote, the price was going down.  Which did you like Carmine, the Premalite or the dyson line?  When you used the Premalite,  was the "handle-weight" heavy? 

To help you out,  I even liked the bagless, multicyclonic, LG-made Kenmore canister.  It was good competition for dyson.  But alas, it is hidden and still expensive.  It  did not sell well.  Not everything is going to make it.  What was that HOOVER "folding upright" called, that you would not let go of?  The HOOVER  Z? 

I really do not get it Carmine.  You are upset about how I feel about Chinese-made vacuum cleaners, but you praise the$300.00  Electrolux Nimble?  What gives?
Moderator Mike_W


"There is no BEST or PERFECT vacuum cleaner"

"Take care of your vacuum, then your vacuum will take care of you"


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #51   Apr 2, 2011 11:57 pm
CarmineD wrote:

No Mike, I figured [wrongly] that you would find out the truth yourself sooner or later about the SEARS Premalite, I didn't have to call you out on it here publicly.  Sadly I was wrong.  The experience did not humble you.  Instead just the opposite.  Righteously you pound your chest here justified with your badge and censor keys.  So, you have to learn a life lesson the hard way.  And... I'm the one to do it.

BTW, do you care to share with us what you know now about the SEARS Premalite now and what happened to that $400 plus China made and SEARS sold upright?

Carmine D.

PS:  "....for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled,
and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”


Now, as Moderator-

Does this underlined sentence have anything to do w/the actions of the moderator or the workings of this site?  Just give me a "Yes" or "No".  That is all I want.

You have been here long enough to know how things work.  You have been given  much freedom.  I could have easily "censored" the things you have posted, as you would think I do, but have not.  I have even left things you wrote about me.  Its all still there.  Not the mean monster as you want to believe.

Mike W,
Moderator


This message was modified Apr 3, 2011 by Mike_W
CarmineD


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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #52   Apr 3, 2011 8:11 am
Mike_W wrote:
  You are upset about how I feel about Chinese-made vacuum cleaners, but you praise the$300.00  Electrolux Nimble?  What gives?


Completely False statements Mike.  Your money, your opinion, buy and like what you want.  

I haven't used the Electrolux Nimble yet, but I tried.  I saw it and turned on.  I posted here several weeks weeks ago about it.  Not sure what you read and inferred.  When I was at Lowe's on other business, I stopped by the vacuum aisle to scope out the Nimble.  It was new and on display but w/o the dirt bin cover.  Couldn't use it, no suction.  Can't praise it yet.  Have to wait and see.

BTW, I bought 2 new HOOVER Z's.  Still in use.  One in a commercial setting.  It is their go to vacuum.  Never bought a SEARS LG Permalite.  Even when it was discountinued and selling for $69 new.  HARDSELL put it correctly here.  He said and I quote:  It is a POS.  If I'm not mistaken I even agreed with him here.  Every now and then even he gets it right.  When he does, I tell him so.

Carmine D.

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