Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

A famous German Vacuum soon to be available at your local Oreck Dealer.....Hummm.

What a pity Oreck can't make their own canisters. I know they still have the black deluxe model - the blocky rectangular one where in the U.K if you don't buy the Deluxe model, you're compromised by having no wheels and thus have to buy an optional clip on set of wheels - in my mind Oreck are the ONLY company that have this in place. If Oreck went out on a limb and produced similar canisters to what they've made like the Philips Dutch series, they'd probably do well in Europe.

vacmanuk wrote:

The ORECK Ironman and Buster canisters and compact handhelds which dual with the lightweights are ORECK made.  The Ironman comes with wheels.   If I'm not mistaken, the latest HOOVERR/TTI compact cann with lightweight bagged up dual doesn't have wheels but glides/slides. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
How interesting. As you know we don't have U.S Hoover in the U.K - only Vax now that they're under the TTi ownership. Which model are you referring to, Carmine? Any pics of this compact canister "bagged up dual" (whatever that means!)..?

Ah Carmine, I'm referring to canisters that are akin to Miele/Hoover. Not the kind that you purposefully carry.

vacmanuk wrote:

Well Vacmanuk, HOOVER refers to this model as a portable canister.   ......And ORECK calls its models like this either compact canisters and/or handhelds.  Both are used interchangeably.  It's not my terminology, but theirs and standard for the industry in the USA for the last 50 plus years.  I use what the makers/industry use and say they are. 

My feeling is wheels on such small and lightweight compact/portable canisters would make them unruly on stairwells and steps.  Both the HOOVER and ORECK, after which HOOVER copied, have shoulder straps for these compact/portable canisters.  At 5-7 pounds typically, they are made to easily glide/slide and/or be used over the shoulder and/or sit sideways on the steps.  Wheels would add unnecessary weight and defeat the purposes for which they are designed and function.  IMHO

Carmine D.

PS:  When I say HOOVER copied ORECK I refer to the lightweight with compact canister sold as dual team vacuums.  Clearly this combo is an ORECK marketing strategy that HOOVER/TTI copied.  HOOVER for many years was absent from the lightweight upright vacuum market chosing instead to source its solo sold 8 pound Ultra lightweight upright vacuum to RICCAR/Simplicity under the HOOVER brand name. 

An aside on the commentary about ORECK and full sized canns.  Not really the ORECK venue.  Lightweight uprights and compact canisters are ORECK's claim to fame.  Recall MIELE didn't make and market its own uprights for over 75 years.  ORECK just as soon not produce full size canisters for USA consumption let alone Euro market which is flooded with canisters.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Are you kidding?  Where are you getting your info?  I am sure you just run down to the nearest ORECK center and ask.  Just because they work there, does not mean they know.  I happen to know who makes this new vacuum cleaner.  ORECK sources alot of their models from different sources(not including XL & BB).

Mike_W wrote:

As I recall there was a discussion that the Quest was BOSCH made.  I added my info that it is Pano made.  If you know, then post it. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Well you see Carmine, in the UK and Europe we don't use the term canisters unless its the old fashioned round tub types U.S refers to as "Shop Vac." Even the Rainbow in the UK would come under "tank" or "canister" due to its rounded shape. In this respect, whoever copied who (and how long has the Oreck canister been out actually? The Hoover Portapower from the U.S was available in the U.K in the 1980's. )

On the basis that Miele, SEBO and Bosch all use castors which are deemed lightweight, it wouldn't add that much weight to add three wheels recessed into the base, particularly when you consider the lighter PVC plastic components around these days.