Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

A famous German Vacuum soon to be available at your local Oreck Dealer.....Hummm.

Severus wrote:

Hello Severus:

Scrolling up you can read an excerpt from the USA web site about the mission and motives of dyson's engineers and scientists.  Below in response to your question, I excerpted this verbage from the dyson UK web site: It reads exactly the same as the USA dyson site:

Research, design and development

New ideas are the lifeblood of Dyson. Every year, we invest half our profits back into harnessing them at our research and development laboratory in Wiltshire. There are 350 engineers and scientists based there. Thinking, testing, breaking, questioning.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk wrote:

Hi vacmanuk:

ORECK is in very good company.  Thanks for the info.  Very interesting.  Nice to see and hear that American made vacuums are holding their own with German made SEBO amd MIELE brands. 

In contrast, when you relocate to a foreign country to save 30 percent in labor costs then outsource to contractors, it's not surprising that quality tanks [no pun intended]. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
As usual you present what yu want others to think and not the truth.  I paid less than $300 at WM. 

I also brought an Oreck home from target for comparison.  I RETURNED THE ORECK.

Hoover may have copied the style but they far exceeded the Oreck performance.

LUV it too.

vacmanuk wrote:
"Dyson matches SEBO for average test score "

Where did Oreck score in use testing?  I am sure it was somewhere with the hand broom.  Since Oreck only had 3% as many reliability respondants I wonder how it would fare if it had a realistic user audience.  If they counted premature belt or brush roll failure Oreck would certainly be near the bottom.  Then again many users are embarrased to admit that they bought a failure and do not respond.

Most would prefer to drive a Mercedes, Lexus or BMW than a F-150 or Silverado.  However, the luxury rides would be pith poor performers at hauling and pulling.  Same with a vacuum.  The Oreck will not get the job done if you want deep clean carpet even though it may be a smooth push pull machine.

HARDSELL wrote:

Excellent.  Glad to hear you found new HOOVER products worthy and paid a decent price.  The HOOVER combo is worth about $250 [just like ORECK].  Glad you like these HOOVER products after bad mouthing HOOVER for so long here and saying dyson sunk it.  Apparently if you're buying HOOVER's latest ORECK copy offerings, HOOVER is still alive an doing well.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Dysom bottom at the ratings for reliability.  Despite 350 scientists and engineers working tirelessly to question, test, break down and rebuild.  Maybe Severus is right.  Engineers have a different meaning in dyson terms than we have here in ther USA.

ORECK rated in the tier with German made vacuums.  Way to go for USA made vacuums products from ORECK.

By the way, ORECK air purifiers are the best selling the USA.  Must be good old American engineering at work again. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Not you.  You purchased 2 new ORECKS and proudly admit it and telling us on every occasion.  Apparently buying ORECK's in 2's runs in your family.   

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:
Clearly you haven't read the post - ORECK scored better than Dyson with their uprights. Which collect findings from owners and repair bills collected from private and franchise repairers. There is no info on the hand vacuums or SEBO's cylinder vacuums simply because they don't sell as many. Besides, the UK don't get the recent machines that Oreck U.S have. Also Which have found Oreck uprights to be excellent at DEEP CARPET CLEANING - better than the hopeless plastic brush rolls of the Dyson.

Please don't start quoting cars again - the moderator on here has already warned members using cars as a comparison - you can't compare a vehicle with a vacuum cleaner = period.

Interestingly enough Hardsell, the cars that you all quote have terrible fuel consumption - especially the American ones over BMW & Mercesdes, who are at least doing something about energy efficient cars. I can't see an electric F-150 - can you?

vacmanuk wrote:

I read the post and posted my sentence from it.  Where in your excerpt does it say that Oreck scored over Dyson in testing ( I have to assume this is vacuuming useage). 

Luxury doesn't come cheap.  It will be a long time before electric cars have any real value IMO.

vacmanuk wrote:

Does sound more made up than scientific.  CR must have assisted.

HARDSELL wrote:

Clearly you haven't read the post - the WHICH UK Survey rates RELIABILITY citing SEBO and Oreck as the top two in the upright catgory. Dyson is at the lower end of the table - so reliability is therefore isn't as good. They're not in a different position where their canister/cylindedrs are concerned either. CR would have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UK either. They don't even test the models you have in the U.S - we have comparatively similar models, but not always the same. Cue the DC17 by Dyson, of which member DC18 informed Carmine that this is a U.S only model and vice versa in the UK, other models we have and you don't.

Same with Oreck = the models you have in the U.S/Canada is substantially better than what is offered in the U.K and the costs are a lot more. Similarly Miele models in the U.K are far cheaper (and the cost parts) than U.S charges. Blame the economy, not the luxury value.

The reliability data would be made up by actual reliability; amount of repairs (or in some cases very little), amount of problems and the kinds of problems would be data specific and geared to this statistic making up the survey. Performance is also factored into the survey.