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procare
Joined: Jul 16, 2009
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Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Original Message Aug 7, 2010 10:01 pm |
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Customers are coming in asking about bags, belts and filters for cleaners that Wal Mart sells. They were told they were discontinuing these products and want the customers to go online when they need these items. When you need a belt or anything else ,it is," I need it now", not days from now. These customers didn't like being told they had to go to another store if they had what they needed. In our area it is 20 miles in three directions for a store. Many small businesses have been driven out of business by this company as well as other big box stores.I feel there will be a ressurection of the Independent Vac Shops because people will find getting parts and service there is better than going online and waiting. Looking at a cleaner and seeing what it will do is better than buying online and hope it does what it is supposed to. Online sales will still be made but having the service after the sale is still important. You can say what you will about your favorite brand but when it gets down to buying a cleaner going to a Vac Shop is the best way. At Wal Mart and the other big box stores they sell you what they want to sell you. At least with Vac shops you can find a wider variety of Vacuums.The Door to Door sales peolpe also have a variety. It is if the cleaner meets the needs of the consumer that they buy. Procare
This message was modified Aug 7, 2010 by procare
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #50 Feb 7, 2011 1:46 pm |
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Hello Procare: Interesting. I was at Wal*Mart this past Wednesday to purchase weatherstripping for my daughter and son-in-law's garage. First time I made a visit there in months. I checked out the vacuum aisles. I was stunned. The vacuum replacement parts portion was reduced in size from my previous visit and in complete disarray. I looked for several common belts and bags and bagless filters but did not see them stocked. I didn't really think much more than what I had read recently about a major shake-up in Wal*Mart management over merchandise inventory/supplies. Never gave it a second thought. You explained it. Thanks for the information. Carmine D.
I made one of several yearly visits to Wal*Mart today to buy enamel spray paint. The local Wal*Mart Super Center has the exact brand and color of my outdoor lawn furniture which is in need of touch up. Swung by the vacuum aisles. 2 aisles to be exact not counting the floor space thruout the store loaded with pallets of new vacuums. Nice array of products as usual but noticed that the parts and vacuum supplies has been substantially culled and the newly available aisle space used to display more new floorcare products: HOOVER, EUREKA, SHARK, BISSELL and DIRT DEVIL to be specific. The vacuum parts were organized and in their correct spaces and places. But the amount of space that they use now is probably 1/10 of the aisle space they once commanded in this store. Easy to keep them all neatly in their place now. The parts and supplies are mostly if not exclusively HOOVER, EUREKA, BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL and SHARK accessories to match the lineup of the new floorcare products displayed and sold in this W*M store.
No parts for the high price bagless brand which has been culled down to a mere 2 display models collecting dust. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #51 Feb 7, 2011 5:48 pm |
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I made one of several yearly visits to Wal*Mart today to buy enamel spray paint. The local Wal*Mart Super Center has the exact brand and color of my outdoor lawn furniture which is in need of touch up. Swung by the vacuum aisles. 2 aisles to be exact not counting the floor space thruout the store loaded with pallets of new vacuums. Nice array of products as usual but noticed that the parts and vacuum supplies has been substantially culled and the newly available aisle space used to display more new floorcare products: HOOVER, EUREKA, SHARK, BISSELL and DIRT DEVIL to be specific. The vacuum parts were organized and in their correct spaces and places. But the amount of space that they use now is probably 1/10 of the aisle space they once commanded in this store. Easy to keep them all neatly in their place now. The parts and supplies are mostly if not exclusively HOOVER, EUREKA, BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL and SHARK accessories to match the lineup of the new floorcare products displayed and sold in this W*M store. No parts for the high price bagless brand which has been culled down to a mere 2 display models collecting dust. Carmine D.
Hi Carmine,
Is this an indicator that the credit/debit card and the internet are taking hold? It's one thing to go out looking for a vacuum itself and another to make a trek merely to purchase consumables. I much prefer it to traveling all the way to a shop just to get bags, belts or filters. All you have to do is have the model or part number. AND -- if you forget -- you're still at home and your cleaner's no farther than your closet if you need to re-check your info. Venson
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vacmanuk
Location: Scotland UK
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #52 Feb 8, 2011 6:19 am |
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Hi Carmine, Is this an indicator that the credit/debit card and the internet are taking hold? It's one thing to go out looking for a vacuum itself and another to make a trek merely to purchase consumables. I much prefer it to traveling all the way to a shop just to get bags, belts or filters. All you have to do is have the model or part number. AND -- if you forget -- you're still at home and your cleaner's no farther than your closet if you need to re-check your info. Venson A lot of my friends rarely buy parts in store with cash. I tend to use my card too. Doesn't make much of a difference really unless you want lower costs by going online, and many use PayPal through EBAY direct account access rather than debit/credit card for safety. Reason I use my card is that I'm usually guaranteed, depending on the places I go to, the stores can trace the card rather than constantly having to keep the receipts. I guess this is a newer step forward, getting away from a paper friendly environment.
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CarmineD
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #53 Feb 8, 2011 7:22 am |
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Hi Carmine, Is this an indicator that the credit/debit card and the internet are taking hold? It's one thing to go out looking for a vacuum itself and another to make a trek merely to purchase consumables. I much prefer it to traveling all the way to a shop just to get bags, belts or filters. All you have to do is have the model or part number. AND -- if you forget -- you're still at home and your cleaner's no farther than your closet if you need to re-check your info. Venson Hi Venson:
Not in my opinion. It's an indicator that W*M prefers selling the new vacuum products rather than the parts to keep them going. BTW, I should have mentioned the vacuum parts' which are in short supply find have skyhigh prices. Two deterents: High prices and lack of the right bag/belt or filter for the customers. Forcing vacuum customers looking for parts to buy a new vacuum instead OR if they can't find their parts and/or won't buy one of these new vacuums then make the trip to the vacuum store for another oprtion. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #54 Feb 8, 2011 8:45 am |
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A lot of my friends rarely buy parts in store with cash. I tend to use my card too. Doesn't make much of a difference really unless you want lower costs by going online, and many use PayPal through EBAY direct account access rather than debit/credit card for safety. Reason I use my card is that I'm usually guaranteed, depending on the places I go to, the stores can trace the card rather than constantly having to keep the receipts. I guess this is a newer step forward, getting away from a paper friendly environment.
Vacmanuk:
According to all surveys done, most men in the US carry on average a mere $30 on them at all times. Not much. We have become a credit card using people and society. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #55 Feb 8, 2011 10:24 am |
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Vacmanuk: According to all surveys done, most men in the US carry on average a mere $30 on them at all times. Not much. We have become a credit card using people and society. Carmine D.
Hi Carmine,
I think the picture has changed a little. Since so much of payment for everyday expenditures, etc., has been facilitated the debit card has come into play. Phone, cable, utility bills, shopping, even renewing car registration can be managed online and off without bona fide credit cards. There's a non-interest bearing pre-paid version which, for a fee as needed, you may put funds on hold until needed and use to make online purchases even if you're credit ratings lousy. These can be also funded by way of direct deposit set-ups. There are also debit cards granted by banks along with savings accounts that allow for direct deposit of pay from your job or pension. In either case, credit is not extended but, due to the card, you may use the card for all the same things you would a credit card as long as there is money in your acount. The bright side to the debit card is the convenience it offers plus it won't allow you to spend what you don't have. They've really caught on. Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #56 Feb 8, 2011 12:40 pm |
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Hi Carmine, I think the picture has changed a little. Since so much of payment for everyday expenditures, etc., has been facilitated the debit card has come into play. Phone, cable, utility bills, shopping, even renewing car registration can be managed online and off without bona fide credit cards. There's a non-interest bearing pre-paid version which, for a fee as needed, you may put funds on hold until needed and use to make online purchases even if you're credit ratings lousy. These can be also funded by way of direct deposit set-ups. There are also debit cards granted by banks along with savings accounts that allow for direct deposit of pay from your job or pension. In either case, credit is not extended but, due to the card, you may use the card for all the same things you would a credit card as long as there is money in your acount. The bright side to the debit card is the convenience it offers plus it won't allow you to spend what you don't have. They've really caught on. Venson
Hi Venson et al:
Here's a good article from the headline and front page of today's Wall Street Journal. I can say with personal and firsthand experience that the article is right on for housing here in Las Vegas, Nevada. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704570104576124502975117950.html People are cashing out of investments, stocks and bonds, retirement accounts and so on, to purchase houses. Then, possibly "refi" some point in the future. With gold at such exorbitantly ridiculous prices now, the safe haven may very well be real estate, now that the bubble has burst. All and all, very good indicatior for the vacuum industry and independent vacuum stores. BTW, both Whirlpool and Electrolux AB reported quarterly earnings for the end of 2010 recently and as expected they were worse than the year before. Always darkest before the dawn. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #57 Feb 8, 2011 1:17 pm |
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FYI, Megyn Kelly [FOX news commentator] and Eric Holder, a FOX contributor and real estate expert, just updated viewers on the latest news for housing in the USA. Megyn's home is underwater as are 23 percent of all US home owners. They owe more than the home is currently worth. 11 percent of the US hjomes are vacant. Another ONE MILLION homes are expected to be foreclosed in 2011 bringing the total on the market to 3 MILLION homes. The worse in US history. Even worse than the Great Depression. Eric Holder held up the WSJ article I quoted above saying there are people sitting on the sidelines with access to cash ready to jump in and make a deal. Megyn found that hard to believe. But Eric held up the article and said here it is. Americans are struggling. But there are some who lively frugally and squirreled away resources who are ready and willing now to jump into the market. Ironically the FHA with $11 BILLION in funds to assist Amercian homeowners in Megyn's situation has had a grand total of 38 customers. Funny how the best laid plans of a government program is no match for the simple and pure human ingenuity and economic sacrifice. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Walmart is supposedly getting out of belt ,filterand bag business in stores.
Reply #58 Feb 9, 2011 7:34 am |
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Another appliance retailer bites the dust in the current economic tsunami. Two stores in Las Vegas closed. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-27/ultimate-electronics-files-for-bankruptcy-as-suppliers-curtail-shipments.html Along with Linens-n-Things and Circuit City. Carmine D.
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