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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Original Message   Jul 7, 2010 5:20 pm
Hi,

Which? magazine has just made a preliminary announcement re the Sebo D series vacuums.  Bags being my preference, I was pleased to read that the D series sports a 6-liter bag (about a gallon and a half).  The airbelt is a little wasted on me as I've never had problems with marring furniture.  However, if it will keep the machine itself from looking like it belongs in a second-hand shop for a few years I'm all for it.

Which? plans to test the D series soon.

The story is here: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/07/new-vacs-with-bumpers-to-protect-your-furniture-219804

Venson

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #63   Oct 6, 2010 7:26 am
vacmanuk wrote:
It will take some time for the D series to appear on SEBO's USA site, Carmine. SEBO UK confirmed that the SEBO D had already been sent to the U.S to a number of private dealers before it is put on the website "nationally" on the official U.S website. I guess its all about money. It wont be long though I imagine they will have to make a new video for it as well.


Thanks vacmanuk. 

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #64   Oct 8, 2010 8:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmw-rFC2Ws


This is a user video from a UK member of You Tube who has bought the new D4 Premium. Quite a nice video and the LED dial has a delightful light display going on.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #65   Oct 9, 2010 8:49 am
vacmanuk wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmw-rFC2Ws


This is a user video from a UK member of You Tube who has bought the new D4 Premium. Quite a nice video and the LED dial has a delightful light display going on.


Impressive vacuum and demo.  Thank you vacmanuk.  Demo'er did a fine job showing the machine and its features.  Would be nice if he did the same for the power head and brush roll.  I know what you're thinking:  Everbody is a critic......

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #66   Oct 9, 2010 9:34 am
CarmineD wrote:
Impressive vacuum and demo.  Thank you vacmanuk.  Demo'er did a fine job showing the machine and its features.  Would be nice if he did the same for the power head and brush roll.  I know what you're thinking:  Everbody is a critic......

Carmine D.


I think that may well come eventually. It's certainly not my posting or my machine - I'm not keen any kind of cylinder vac with a power head - I always find that kind of concept too heavy to consider.
KBroMan


Joined: Oct 9, 2010
Points: 1

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #67   Oct 9, 2010 10:54 am
Hey Guys, New to Abby's Guide. I was looking around for this vacuum since your brought it up and found this website which really explains this machine extremely well. The best description I have found on it so far.

http://www.mrvacandmrssew.com/vacuum-cleaners/brand/sebo/Canisters.aspx

They have both the red and the black one up. Now I just have to decide whether I should spend for this machine or the Miele.
This message was modified Oct 9, 2010 by KBroMan
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #68   Oct 10, 2010 9:25 am
KBroMan wrote:
Hey Guys, New to Abby's Guide. I was looking around for this vacuum since your brought it up and found this website which really explains this machine extremely well. The best description I have found on it so far.

http://www.mrvacandmrssew.com/vacuum-cleaners/brand/sebo/Canisters.aspx

They have both the red and the black one up. Now I just have to decide whether I should spend for this machine or the Miele.

Hi KBroMan - welcome to the forum - not that I'm any moderator but I own the D2 Total - european spec - and wrote the review here.

Miele S5 is an excellent all round vacuum. I wanted one for years UNTIL I realised how small the amount of cable on board is and didn't feel obliged to have to spend a lot of money for a bit more cable when my old S381 could handle a small to medium home. The D series is great in that respect - it has almost twice the amount of cable on offer and the model choices are pretty much easy to work out per floor head choice. Ask away if you need to know more.
budmattingly


Location: Middletown Ohio
Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 60

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #69   Nov 8, 2010 9:24 pm
Ok I bought one and added a review for you to look at. I have two top of the line Miele's and I have to say this vacuum is going to give Miele a run for their money. It is the same upper price end as a Miele so the price will not be a factor in choosing a Miele or a Sebo. The length of the cord is amazing. Anyone with a large home would really appreciate this. I have a one story two bedroom condo and can plug it in the hallway and never have to replug, even when climbing a ladder to clean the vaulted ceilings and ledges that are around my rooms. Now in order to not have to lift the Sebo up the ladder, I purchased the add on 9 1/2 ft stretch hose. It worked great and it attaches to the end of the electric hose instead of having to change the electric hose on a Miele for a longer non electric hose. The bags on this vacuum are huge and extremely easy to change. Same kind of bag change indicator as a Miele. The motor filter serves as the bag compartment seal, so each time its changed you get a new seal around your bag compartment. Great idea. The D4 is not on the Sebo website or I would have bought directly from them, not that I was disappointed with Achoo Allergy. I bought the bags, filters and hose from MrvacMrsSew another great website. Sebo has a very well done website with FAQ's such as what to do if you need service. If you have a dealer in your area and know who they are, Sebo would like you to tell them and they will make the calls for your service. If there is no dealer, you will get a return authorization number and have to send it to Colorado for service. They usually repair the vacuum the same day they receive it. The only down time you would have is shipping to and from Colorado.

If you haven't visited the Sebo Website recently and are interested in learning more about Sebo products, they have short videos on how to put your machine together, how to change the bags and filters, how to use the attachments, etc.....

One other thing that is a great asset is the ability to change or clean the brush roll with no tools needed. This would be great for people with different carpet styles that may require a delicate brush for one carpet and a stiff brush roll for another carpet. These brush rolls run around $20 each and are available on their website. One of their videos was changing the brush roll. 30 seconds tops.

Enough said...except that I have always been an Electrolux die hard fan and have been disappointed in my last two purchases. The Lux Guardian Ultra from an Aerus Dealer and a Lux Legacy NIB purchased from an Ebay seller. Aerus does not seem to have the same quality controls in place as the old Electrolux had. Also I don't think they do much with research and development. I was expecting great things when I purchased the Lux Guardian Ultra. What I got was a machine so powerfull that it tore the inner lining from the outer lining of the filter bags, which Aerus assured me they were fixing, a very loud machine, and a suction control that was absolutely useless. You cannot use the sidekick unless you have a half full bag or it will stall out......for the price of the machine, it needs a variable suction control similar to the Sebo D4 and/or the Miele vacuums. The middle of the line Lux Legacy is quieter with a piece of muffler stuck between the after filter and the blower port, that supposedly doesn't decrease airflow....The flaw I see in it is that it has an air leak coming from inside the carrying handle. This may or may not be a problem depending on whether the air has been filtered by the after filter first. I cannot take credit for figuring this out, I actually pm'd a couple of people on this forum for help....I also wrote Aerus and expressed my concerns. They assured me they take concerns very seriously and my email would be turned over to their engineers for review. Hope they care enough to listen. If they don't come up to par with Miele and Sebo, I don't know what the future will hold for them and that would be a very sad day for me......

Sincerely,

Bud Mattingly

This message was modified Nov 8, 2010 by budmattingly
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #70   Nov 9, 2010 7:22 am
budmattingly wrote:
Ok I bought one and added a review for you to look at. I have two top of the line Miele's and I have to say this vacuum is going to give Miele a run for their money. It is the same upper price end as a Miele so the price will not be a factor in choosing a Miele or a Sebo. The length of the cord is amazing. Anyone with a large home would really appreciate this. I have a one story two bedroom condo and can plug it in the hallway and never have to replug, even when climbing a ladder to clean the vaulted ceilings and ledges that are around my rooms. Now in order to not have to lift the Sebo up the ladder, I purchased the add on 9 1/2 ft stretch hose. It worked great and it attaches to the end of the electric hose instead of having to change the electric hose on a Miele for a longer non electric hose. The bags on this vacuum are huge and extremely easy to change. Same kind of bag change indicator as a Miele. The motor filter serves as the bag compartment seal, so each time its changed you get a new seal around your bag compartment. Great idea. The D4 is not on the Sebo website or I would have bought directly from them, not that I was disappointed with Achoo Allergy. I bought the bags, filters and hose from MrvacMrsSew another great website. Sebo has a very well done website with FAQ's such as what to do if you need service. If you have a dealer in your area and know who they are, Sebo would like you to tell them and they will make the calls for your service. If there is no dealer, you will get a return authorization number and have to send it to Colorado for service. They usually repair the vacuum the same day they receive it. The only down time you would have is shipping to and from Colorado.

If you haven't visited the Sebo Website recently and are interested in learning more about Sebo products, they have short videos on how to put your machine together, how to change the bags and filters, how to use the attachments, etc.....

One other thing that is a great asset is the ability to change or clean the brush roll with no tools needed. This would be great for people with different carpet styles that may require a delicate brush for one carpet and a stiff brush roll for another carpet. These brush rolls run around $20 each and are available on their website. One of their videos was changing the brush roll. 30 seconds tops.

Enough said...except that I have always been an Electrolux die hard fan and have been disappointed in my last two purchases. The Lux Guardian Ultra from an Aerus Dealer and a Lux Legacy NIB purchased from an Ebay seller. Aerus does not seem to have the same quality controls in place as the old Electrolux had. Also I don't think they do much with research and development. I was expecting great things when I purchased the Lux Guardian Ultra. What I got was a machine so powerfull that it tore the inner lining from the outer lining of the filter bags, which Aerus assured me they were fixing, a very loud machine, and a suction control that was absolutely useless. You cannot use the sidekick unless you have a half full bag or it will stall out......for the price of the machine, it needs a variable suction control similar to the Sebo D4 and/or the Miele vacuums. The middle of the line Lux Legacy is quieter with a piece of muffler stuck between the after filter and the blower port, that supposedly doesn't decrease airflow....The flaw I see in it is that it has an air leak coming from inside the carrying handle. This may or may not be a problem depending on whether the air has been filtered by the after filter first. I cannot take credit for figuring this out, I actually pm'd a couple of people on this forum for help....I also wrote Aerus and expressed my concerns. They assured me they take concerns very seriously and my email would be turned over to their engineers for review. Hope they care enough to listen. If they don't come up to par with Miele and Sebo, I don't know what the future will hold for them and that would be a very sad day for me......

Sincerely,

Bud Mattingly


Thanks Bud.  Excellent feature on the brush roll options.  Like getting 2 vacuums for the price of an additional $20.  Smart thinking and doing by SEBO.  IMMER BESSER may have gotten bested.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #71   Nov 9, 2010 7:34 am
Hey Bud, I read your review already and was very impressed with it. The D4 Premium is already on You Tube by a UK buyer (not me.) Whilst I trialled the D4 I didn't like the associated weight of the tubing and then the ET-1 floor head. Been there before with my own older K3 Premium model. However the D4 is well made and designed as you say like all of the D series. I don't think the Miele S5 is any lesser than its design though - the difference is that now, instead of using a canister with a long cord and no way of automatically retracting it, you can now have it with the D series. The U.S website has also just been updated with tons of videos and well worth looking out for. However it will take them some time for the D vacuum to be added to that site.  I'm pretty sure in time Miele will respond with the same amount of cord in a bigger cylinder vacuum. There's also a couple of videos from www.sebo.de with the Felix (white computer generated) but gives buyers the general idea.
Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #72   Nov 9, 2010 3:08 pm
I would be cautious about SEBO at the moment. Some shake ups in the company and their Multi-Level-Marketing program didn't seem to pan out very well. I have no documented proof of anything but people in the business are talking and their account people are bailing out or being let go. Anyone with more concrete information please post.
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