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tbstbs


Joined: Aug 12, 2010
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Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Original Message   Aug 12, 2010 9:51 am
I have been reading the various forums here this morning and they are so helpful.

I know what I don't want, so now I am having difficulty deciding between what appear to be 2 very good machines.

After pushing several of the previously mentioned machines around in the store, I might have a slight prefernce for the Riccar.  I like the fact that it won't need belts, and will turn off when I accidently suck up something I shouldn't.  I also prefer the hand held vac that comes with the Riccar, but I think that may be mostly cosmetic.

I believe I would choose the Pilot over the Gold, but I did not consider or really know about  the Edge I see talked about on here.  When it comes to the Oreck, it is hard to overlook the great 6 or 10+ year service plan, not to mention the 30 day money back guarantee.

Now, I am just going around and around in circles.

Does anyone here have some information that might help me move on?

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #14   Aug 13, 2010 8:18 pm
tbstbs wrote:
Thanks everyone!

Well, we had a storm yesterday that knocked out my cable, phone, and internet.  That was probably a good thing because I would have spent the last many many hours reading one review after the other.  I had also found the You Tube videos!

So, I was on my own!

I decided that it made good sense to give the Pilot a try since they met the lower price, worked with me on the canister, and I can return it if I am disappointed.  I should know that for certain in 30 days.  The swivel feature is nice, but the bag is empty...and they are pricey!   The sales person was also very personable while the Riccar fellow got a little snarky with some other customers while I was there.  Not with me of course, because I am very charming.  As far as pushing it along, I let it go for a second and it rolled away from me.  Expect that won't happen when the bag is heavier.

After a short trial here, I am very pleased.  It is like buying a new car though.  Of course it is far superior to the rattle traps I have been lugging around for the last 5 years or so.  I am so happy that I could pick up the new vacuum and do my stairs with it.  It has been a long time since my stairs got a good cleaning.

Interestingly enough, the recs I got from friends and acquaintances were for either the Oreck or the Riccar.  There were a few Dyson recs, but I made up my mind that I wanted a lightweight, so I could eliminate the Dyson. 

That is my story so far.

I do sincerely thank you all.  I read here for quite a bit before I wrote in, and the information here really did help me a lot.

If it falls apart right away...I'll be back.  Insert smiley face.....

TBS



No other vacuum maker except ORECK allows customers a free 30 day in-home trial with no obligations and willingly takes back their vacuums with no questions asked if the customer is not completely satisfied.  None except ORECK.  For over 45 years ORECK has made this promise.  Sure, many big box stores take back vacuums with stipulations/conditions within 30-60-90 days.  Some, like COSTCO, even allow customers longer than 90 days.  Good for the retailers like COSTCO who do.  More power to them.  Speaks volumes about ORECK, its products and its customer service guarantee.

Congrats on your new ORECK purchases and please keep us posted.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Aug 13, 2010 by CarmineD
tbstbs


Joined: Aug 12, 2010
Points: 9

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #15   Aug 14, 2010 7:58 am
If it is typical Oreck you will not have to worry about the bag weight.  Takes a long time for an Oreck to suck up enough dirt to add weight.  They do not deep clean so you will only be removing surface dust.

LOL

We shall see.  In the meantime, I still have a couple of powerful but difficult to use machines around here that I can use for a deeper clean.  If necessary.

It was nice for my vacuuming to be more of an activity than a awful chore.  The swivel feature turns out to be a real asset.  I loved swooping around a corner with the flick of my wrist.  Today I will break out the canister and clean some plantation blinds that I am embarassed about.  You know what?  Isn't it better to USE a vac that does a pretty good job than to have one that deep cleans, but rarely gets out of the closet because I hate to use it? 

I know a couple of clean freaks that have issues with pet hair.  One swears by her Oreck and the other her Riccar.

Hurray for me that I have 30 days to decide for myself.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #16   Aug 14, 2010 8:34 am
tbstbs wrote:
. . .   Isn't it better to USE a vac that does a pretty good job than to have one that deep cleans, but rarely gets out of the closet because I hate to use it? 


Hi tbstbs,

The machine you will happily use over the machine you push yourself to use, no matter the supposed advantage, has always been the point.

Venson

mole


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Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #17   Aug 14, 2010 8:57 am
Venson wrote:
Hi tbstbs,

The machine you will happily use over the machine you push yourself to use, no matter the supposed advantage, has always been the point.

Venson



Venson gets it.............

Vacuuming is a chore that people really dont like to do, sort of like cutting your lawn,its not very exciting and rather boring. Thats why people hire housecleaners and landscapers.

Being in the business.All i can say is kids and pets keep us in business.

regards

MOLE

Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #18   Aug 14, 2010 3:15 pm
I sell the Riccar sO Im biased but give a money back guarantee an they certainly are the most powerfull lightweight
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #19   Aug 14, 2010 5:14 pm
Actionvac wrote:
I sell the Riccar sO Im biased but give a money back guarantee an they certainly are the most powerfull lightweight



Question:  After 30 days in home trial use?

Carmine D.

Vacuumfreeeke


Joined: May 9, 2008
Points: 105

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #20   Aug 14, 2010 10:29 pm
Tbs, I am glad you made a decision and I hope it works out well for you.

Carmine, I hardly think the few dealers in my area make up the majority of dealers in the world.... not to mention many people don't fully trust or agree with Consumer Reports.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #21   Aug 15, 2010 7:19 am
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
Tbs, I am glad you made a decision and I hope it works out well for you.

Carmine, I hardly think the few dealers in my area make up the majority of dealers in the world.... not to mention many people don't fully trust or agree with Consumer Reports.


How true.  Nice to hear you say so.  TBS reads CR and purchased a EUREKA based on it with some regrets in hindsight.  CR is a guide not the gospel.  Experts in the industry are the best and final say.  Shoppers should use CR as a starting point not the ending place.

Carmine D.

tbstbs


Joined: Aug 12, 2010
Points: 9

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #22   Aug 15, 2010 9:33 am
CarmineD wrote:
How true.  Nice to hear you say so.  TBS reads CR and purchased a EUREKA based on it with some regrets in hindsight.  CR is a guide not the gospel.  Experts in the industry are the best and final say.  Shoppers should use CR as a starting point not the ending place.

Carmine D.


I was trying to be PC when I spoke about CR and my Eureka Boss.  It is without a doubt a piece of carp.  While it still has powerful suction, it has been a giant pain to operate and has other durability issues.  When I had to pull out the duct tape last week, I knew it was time to save myself.  My son is pretty excited that he can take it off to college with him.  Good riddance!  The vac, not my son.

This is not the first time I went with a CR recommendation and regretted it.

I almost renewed my subscription, but I found you guys instead.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Riccar RSL 5 @ $650 or Oreck Pilot @ $599 ?
Reply #23   Aug 15, 2010 10:27 am
tbstbs wrote:
I was trying to be PC when I spoke about CR and my Eureka Boss.  It is without a doubt a piece of carp.  While it still has powerful suction, it has been a giant pain to operate and has other durability issues.  When I had to pull out the duct tape last week, I knew it was time to save myself.  My son is pretty excited that he can take it off to college with him.  Good riddance!  The vac, not my son.

This is not the first time I went with a CR recommendation and regretted it.

I almost renewed my subscription, but I found you guys instead.


I agree that CR best serves as a tool , not a Bible.  However, the same organization rated your new Pilot. as "very good" on carpet and for pet hair, "excellent" in regard to bare floor cleaning and emissions and also "excellent" for handling.  Are they off the mark now?

The Boss is rated as"fair" for handling.  I don't blame that on CR.  Maybe you missed the fine print stating that -- Overall, this is a very good upright vacuum that excelled at cleaning bare floors and picking up pet hair. It was also excellent at keeping its emissions low. It was fairly hard to handle.

Venson

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