Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

   Customers are coming in  asking  about bags, belts and filters for cleaners that Wal Mart sells. They were told they were discontinuing these products and want the customers to go online when they need these items. When you need a belt or anything else ,it is," I need it now", not days from now. These customers didn't like being told they had to go to another store if they had what they needed. In our area it is 20 miles in three directions for a store.

  Many small businesses have been driven out of business by this company as well as other big box stores.I feel there will be a ressurection of the Independent Vac Shops because people will find getting parts and service there is better than going online and waiting. Looking at a cleaner and seeing what it will do is better than buying online and hope it does what it is supposed to. Online sales will still be made but having the service after the sale is still important. 

You can say what you will about your favorite brand but when it gets down to buying a cleaner going to a Vac Shop is the best way.  At Wal Mart and the other big box stores they sell you what they want to sell you. At least with Vac shops you can find a wider variety of Vacuums.The Door to Door sales peolpe also have a variety. It is if the cleaner meets the needs of the consumer that they buy.

                                                                                                           Procare

CarmineD wrote:
Can't get it right can you pops.  Your response has nothing to do with my comments about having better foresight than you.

Twist away. You must be screwed in the ground to your neck after all these years of twisting.

CarmineD wrote:
I think you are really puffing yourself up.  Do you honestly think you are the only one who has contacted the dyson company?  I already know of one person, who would take everything that was said on the forums and give the info to dyson.  I am sure there are others.  Plus, I am sure dyson employees have scoured the internet; in order to learn user's opinions.  Do not puff yourself up too much. 

I have some ideas, but you will not find me sending emails to dyson, other companies, or posting them here.  I will not be giving my ideas away.

CarmineD wrote: Oh no!   I got one letter wrong, in someone's name.  What shall I do?  I am not an expert.

You see Carmine, I know exactly what I said.  How do you think I knew you copied someone's writing and ideas?  I searched it and found it right?  We need to seriously contact this writer and show him what you wrote.  I think he will get a laugh.

It does not matter how long or short, you do not make yourself out to be the originator of your comment/idea.  I explained why previously.

This is not the first Carmine.  I even called someone else out for using someone's pictures, but made it sound like it was their own vacuum cleaner. Do you remember the thread?



BTW, Thanks for standing by, to correct my spelling.

Mike W.
Moderator

Mike_W wrote:

You and I are very different persons tho we share a common passion for vacuums.  I have no pride in ownership of my vacuum ideas.  I offer them freely at no cost to others.  Dyson isn't the first vacuum company.  There have been others too going back for as long as I have been in the vacuum business.  When HOOVER came from North Canton to demo its Dial to me in the early 60's, I told them the floating head [exactly what it was called then] wouldn't work on high carpets.  I was right then too.  Not surprising I was right again with dyson.  History repeats itself. 

I have even signed statements for vacuum companies that I would not try to profit if the companies used my suggestions.  I always have signed them.  Not a problem. 

When it's the truth, it's not called puffing.  That's your word for impugning me when its you who fall short in virtue.  It's called the truth.  If you recall, James Dyson and his fans argued for years [even here] against the addition of height adjustments to his vacuums.  Swearing the floating head was more practical and saying users never bothered to set them correctly anyway.  Vacuum history proves both statements are seriously wrong.  Sadly vacuum history and experience is not dyson's strong card.  So, maybe it wasn't my email that swayed his thinking and resulted in the changes I suggested.  But surely even you wouldn't argue that if enough comments like mine were received they wouldn't make the desired difference.  That's afool's argument.  Since you don't share your ideas with others, you would naturally say what you do.  I would say you are foolish in your thinking.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Again Carmine, do not puff yourself up.  You did not give this writer ideas and words.  I knew about Circuit City long before you posted it here.  It was in the news, when they first started having trouble.  It was not your prediction.  You tell the forum that you predict major appliances will be down.  Duh!  All news agencies earlier said new home sales are down and will continue to go down.  You see Carmine, they are not your predictions.  Every time the economy is bad, home sales are bad.  If people are not buying new homes, there are no new appliances to put in them.  So yes, new appliance sales are going to be down.  Whirlpool, Electrolux Group, GE,etc. will see declining sales.  It is obvious.

I am fine w/you reading whatever you want to read or subscribe to.  What you are not going to do is change the direction of this vacuum cleaner forum. You better care what I think, as a Moderator.  If you post these kinds of things, they will be deleted.

This is not up for discussion.

Mike W.
Moderator

Mike_W wrote:

Same old same old.  It's in the public domain.  It's not proprietary information.  It belongs to the readers who subscribe/read the WSJ.  Not to John Jannaronne once he publishes it.  If you contacted him, be my guest I'm sure he would laugh [at you], he would tell you that another WSJ writer RECOMMENDED BEST BUY stock in the same paper that day while he [and I] say it is overpriced just like BB&B.  See, when it comes to retail stocks and their outlooks and forecasts, there are a multitude of opinions for and against.  No one person owns the right to an opinion that is shared for others' consideration and thinking.  When they do, they charge extra to sell their opinions to investors in their own newsletters and stock pick literature.  They don't publish them in print for the WSJ. 

Carmine D.

Mike_W wrote:

There you go again.  Badge and censor threats.  Pounding your chest.  You're so predictable it's too funny. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
No Carmine, I am inventive and creative.  Look a "Procare" or someone else, who created something and had it patented.  He did not, call HOOVER and give them the idea for free.  He was being smart.  J. Dyson, or anyone else, who had a vacuum cleaner idea, did not spend hours thinking how they could make a vacuum better, then just write a company and say "Here it is for free".  I know fir a fact, James Dyson did not do that.  He wanted money for what he did.  Spend some time looking at patents.  Also read how General Electric, Westinghouse, HOOVER, etc. got started.

Mike_W wrote:

You can think what you like about who and what you are and even say so here for all to read.  I have no problem with all your grandiose opinions of yourself.  If you belief them, that's all that matters.  Just don't expect others to agree with you.  Especially me. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote: