Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

   Customers are coming in  asking  about bags, belts and filters for cleaners that Wal Mart sells. They were told they were discontinuing these products and want the customers to go online when they need these items. When you need a belt or anything else ,it is," I need it now", not days from now. These customers didn't like being told they had to go to another store if they had what they needed. In our area it is 20 miles in three directions for a store.

  Many small businesses have been driven out of business by this company as well as other big box stores.I feel there will be a ressurection of the Independent Vac Shops because people will find getting parts and service there is better than going online and waiting. Looking at a cleaner and seeing what it will do is better than buying online and hope it does what it is supposed to. Online sales will still be made but having the service after the sale is still important. 

You can say what you will about your favorite brand but when it gets down to buying a cleaner going to a Vac Shop is the best way.  At Wal Mart and the other big box stores they sell you what they want to sell you. At least with Vac shops you can find a wider variety of Vacuums.The Door to Door sales peolpe also have a variety. It is if the cleaner meets the needs of the consumer that they buy.

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Another major retailer may be on the bubble ready to burst:  Bed, Bath and Beyond.  It's had a bounce up due to the shuttering of Linens 'N Things in 2008 but will it last?.  BB&B may, like BEST BUY stores, be a victim of the Internet which led more shoppers to seek out lower prices at on-line stores.  Especially troublesome for BB&B whose web site has been slow to take off with only ONE percent of its company sales and ranking 154th in e-commerce.  Costs are aslo a concern.  Suppliers ship directly to their stores not warehouses and distribution centers.  Harder to cut sourcing costs. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I am going to talk to you as Moderator now-

First, this thread was about Walmart "getting out of the belt, filter and bag business". It is not about how BB&B is doing.  We do not need to hear your periodic reports on the economy, cars, etc.  Keep on topic. 

Secondly, I am going to talk about something we have discussed before, on this forum.  Besides being off topic, you are using someone else's info and making it yours., again  I did check  and you are using an article from the Wall Street Journel Titled, "Bubble Bath & Beyond" by John Lannarone.  I have taken the liberty to underline someone else's idea, which you have used as your own.  In the one underlined sentence. you only bothered to change one or two words.

When someone comes to this forum and reads what you have said, they will think it is your idea; making you look better than you really are.  I knew better and checked it out. 

Use your own ideas and not ideas from someone else.

Mike W.
Moderator

Mike_W wrote:

I subscribe to the WSJ and have for many years.  It is even "comped" to me for my long membership.  As such, I can reuse the thoughts and ideas of those who print in the WSJ since it is in the public domain both orally and in writing.  There is no prohibition against it.  However, I do agree with Lannarone and hence the reason I excerpted his words.  In fact, the similarity with BEST BUY stores and Circuit City AND BB&B and LNT is striking, and worth repeating.  Long before Lannarone's article, I posted about the hazards of BB after the demise of CC.  When he made the same analogy, I thought it was insightful and worthy to print. 

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:
Some publications do not mind reprints, etc.  What they do not want is for someone to use their words and ideas as their own, like you did.  Go ahead and ask the writer?  Ask colleges and now even high schools.

No, it is not worth repeating here.

Mike W.
Moderator

Mike_W wrote:

Like I said, I posted here FIRST about BEST BUY stores and the demise of Circuit City with the resultant jump up by BB that wouldn't last.  Lannarone made that eaxct same point in his article AFTER ME which I excerpted and printed.  He didn't ask my permission.  We're not in the educational realm where ideas and theories may be proprietary.  We're in the business world and Lannarone is promoting his ideas in the WSJ for consumption and dissemination to its readers, of which I am and have been for many years.  I make no secret about being a subscriber to Forbes, WSJ and a host of other business periodicals.  Just because I was in the vacuum business for manmy years doesn't mean I can't take a lively interest in business and economics. 

You may not think it's worth repeating.  Frankly I don't care what you think.  When a business writer foer the WSJ uses a idea/issue that I used as an analogy for his print, it gives me great personal and professional pride.  It means we're thinking along the same lines.  May not be right.  Time will tell, as it HAS WITH BEST BUY.

Carmine D.

Mike:  You got the name wrong .  It's John Jannarone not John Lannarone.  I knew when I saw and read it that it wasn't right but in the interest of quick response didn't check it.  Went back and did check.  You were wrong.   

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704101604576249152173867500.html

BTW, I oftentimes do quote the article in its entirety when I post here with the original source.  Especially if the article is long and worth the read.  I believe I have many times on thsi thread too.  This was just too short to be worth it.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Sure glad WSJ did not follow your thinking about Dyson.  For 3 or more years you said they would close the door.  You said Hoover would prevail.  Dyson is thriving and Hoover is only a name.
I was the first to tell you that you were wrong!!!!!!!!!  Please do not use my brilliant knowledge without my permission.

WTF, a quick response is no excuse for typing a name incorrectly if you ACTUALLY knew better.  I doubt that you did until you researched/

HARDSELL wrote:

Oldtimer's is setting in again, I see.  After the new DC07 pink failed miserably on my rugs, I emailed dyson in September 2006 to say its uprights would be best served with a rug height adjustment in lieu of the floating head and srubbing the clutch.  Dyson responded to me saying it would forward my suggestions to the engineering department for future consideration.  Look what's happened since.  Clutch gone.  Height adjustments on the DC28. 

A poster on this site is familiar with all the above. I forwarded my and dyson's email exchanges to him at the time.  Along with the pics of the dyson DC07 pink. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Can't get it right can you pops.  Your response has nothing to do with my comments about having better foresight than you.

Twist away. You must be screwed in the ground to your neck after all these years of twisting.

CarmineD wrote:
I think you are really puffing yourself up.  Do you honestly think you are the only one who has contacted the dyson company?  I already know of one person, who would take everything that was said on the forums and give the info to dyson.  I am sure there are others.  Plus, I am sure dyson employees have scoured the internet; in order to learn user's opinions.  Do not puff yourself up too much. 

I have some ideas, but you will not find me sending emails to dyson, other companies, or posting them here.  I will not be giving my ideas away.