Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi,

Which? magazine has just made a preliminary announcement re the Sebo D series vacuums.  Bags being my preference, I was pleased to read that the D series sports a 6-liter bag (about a gallon and a half).  The airbelt is a little wasted on me as I've never had problems with marring furniture.  However, if it will keep the machine itself from looking like it belongs in a second-hand shop for a few years I'm all for it.

Which? plans to test the D series soon.

The story is here: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/07/new-vacs-with-bumpers-to-protect-your-furniture-219804

Venson

vacmanuk wrote:

When used, even abusively, they stand up to it and keep on running and from reviews I've read, for even 7+ years STRAIGHT w/o ANY tune-ups. So yeah, they're durbale, and I can stand and jump on the BODY standing upright (I'm 190+) pounds, and literally drop it and slam it down onto thin carpet with a pound and they don't break a sweat. That's what I consider a well built machine. They are overall quite durable machines, especially compared to all the chinese crap lately. Very good machines, at least from what I can see and comparing it to a Miele, too. Considering they seem to clean the air better than a Miele w/ a Air Clean filter, they're healthy, and I have allergies. Just be careful when emptying the bin. I'll let this one go (for now, haha) but I'm telling you what I have come to see from my own experiences, choose to believe it or not. You're choice sir, I could care less.

vacmanuk wrote:

Miele TT5000 Cat n Dog 91/100
LG Compressor Allergy Care 90/100
Miele Solution HEPA 5000 89/100
Karcher VC6300 88/100
SEBO K1 Pet 87/100
SEBO D? 86/100
Dyson DC23 Motorhead  86/100
SEBO K3 Airbelt Vulcano 86/100
Bosch Compressor BSG 86/100
Philips Marathon FC9222 83/100

Of note, the prices of the 3 bagless vacuums.  LG is priced at 199 BP, dyson is 299-342 BP, and PM is 180 BP.  All 3 are HEPA.  LG and PM have variable speed motor controls.  Dyson does not.  Is that a big deal?  No, the China sourced $50 HOOVER cann has a variable speed motor control too.  BUT it's a big deal to be the most expensive cann rated, by 2-3 times the price and more, and not have it, IMHO.  BTW, the HOOVER cann also has a cordwinder.  Mine is now 4 years old and still working as good as new except for tool wear.  Tools are chintzy.  Buit who's complaining for $50?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Which also proves that in this case and instance that "premium price" does not mean the best. Also the Dyson DC23 is relatively new against the Sebo K3 Airbelt "old stager" Vulcano which has been on the market in various guises (Sebo just put a paint job) before the DC23's presence.

vacmanuk wrote:

How true.  Caveat emptor.  Buyer beware.  Highest priced does not mean best product.  Despite slick marketing and emotional buying.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

No wonder Orecks so well sometimes.

Hertz wrote:

I paid $150 for my new XL Classic in April 2007.  Still like brand new.  Bought 4 more new and gifted to others who love them.  Worth the price.  If I could find a dozen ORECK's at junk prices I'd buy them too and fix up and gift away.  Haven't yet.  

Carmine D.

Hertz wrote:
MM so this is why hospitals still use bagged vacuums? Really Hertz, you must have iron lungs to think that Dysons are healthier. Hospitals and clinics dont have the money generally but somehow they manage to have contract cleaners who have to use bags by law because it is cleaner!

Also, please don't knock all Chinese built things. I recall Dyson ended up making parts and complete vacuums in Asia...

CarmineD wrote:

Then you're not looking hard enough; Oreck's clean maybe half as well as a Dyson, and the filtration is FAR worse - at least on their older models. People are sometimes too mechanically inept or brainless to know how to maintain a Dyson, thus they breakdown. When properly maintained, a Dyson would FLOOR an Oreck. I'm not sure about their new Edge though and even their Platinum Pilots, those look like good machines (for once).

CarmineD wrote:

Oreck, at "junk" prices: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/app/1854312519.html Check it out buddy - that must mean that Oreck is PURE crap. NO question. Your logic is undeniable; *gag* Lemme know when it clicks for you. :D :P

Hertz wrote:

Thank you.  This example illustrates my point that buying junk dysons at junk prices makes you a junk dyson dealer.  

You posted that you paid $30 for your dyson which retails currently for $400 plus with a 5 year warranty.  That's a 92.5 percent devaluation/depreciation from new prices.  The ORECK is $45 [from the site you provided see picture below] and sells for $200 new with a 1-2 year warranty.  That's a 77.5 percent devaluation/depreciation from current new prices.  This basic ORECK XL model with no frills [doesn't have on-board tools like your dyson either] held its value higher and far better than your dyson.  Dah!  Your junk dyson depreciated quicker and much more than the ORECK that you called PURE crap [now that's an oxymoron].  Tell us again please.......what's that you said about dysons at junk prices? 

ORECK budget buyers should shop Estate Sales too for higher end ORECK models at $45-50.  Estate Sale means the ORECK owners died before their ORECK's.  Unlike your dyson dirty dozen.  They died before the owners.  That's called a yard/garage/rummage sale AKA junk sale.  You bought junk dysons at junk prices.  You are a dyson junk dealer.  Congratulations, you have the market all to yourself. 

According to the AICPA* when an asset falls [depreciates] to less than 10 percent of its cost, it is considered scrap [aka junk] value.  

Carmine D.

* American Institute of Certified Public Accountants

Oreck XL model Vacuum Cleaner - $45 (hollywood)

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Date: 2010-07-20, 7:29PM PDT
Reply to: sale-a4jnm-1854312519@craigslist.org

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