Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi,

Which? magazine has just made a preliminary announcement re the Sebo D series vacuums.  Bags being my preference, I was pleased to read that the D series sports a 6-liter bag (about a gallon and a half).  The airbelt is a little wasted on me as I've never had problems with marring furniture.  However, if it will keep the machine itself from looking like it belongs in a second-hand shop for a few years I'm all for it.

Which? plans to test the D series soon.

The story is here: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/07/new-vacs-with-bumpers-to-protect-your-furniture-219804

Venson

Hertz wrote:

Thank you.  This example illustrates my point that buying junk dysons at junk prices makes you a junk dyson dealer.  

You posted that you paid $30 for your dyson which retails currently for $400 plus with a 5 year warranty.  That's a 92.5 percent devaluation/depreciation from new prices.  The ORECK is $45 [from the site you provided see picture below] and sells for $200 new with a 1-2 year warranty.  That's a 77.5 percent devaluation/depreciation from current new prices.  This basic ORECK XL model with no frills [doesn't have on-board tools like your dyson either] held its value higher and far better than your dyson.  Dah!  Your junk dyson depreciated quicker and much more than the ORECK that you called PURE crap [now that's an oxymoron].  Tell us again please.......what's that you said about dysons at junk prices? 

ORECK budget buyers should shop Estate Sales too for higher end ORECK models at $45-50.  Estate Sale means the ORECK owners died before their ORECK's.  Unlike your dyson dirty dozen.  They died before the owners.  That's called a yard/garage/rummage sale AKA junk sale.  You bought junk dysons at junk prices.  You are a dyson junk dealer.  Congratulations, you have the market all to yourself. 

According to the AICPA* when an asset falls [depreciates] to less than 10 percent of its cost, it is considered scrap [aka junk] value.  

Carmine D.

* American Institute of Certified Public Accountants

Oreck XL model Vacuum Cleaner - $45 (hollywood)

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Date: 2010-07-20, 7:29PM PDT
Reply to: sale-a4jnm-1854312519@craigslist.org

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CarmineD wrote:

You still don't get it; it doesn't matter what something is priced at; it still is what it is; a high quality, long lasting Dyson will beat the pants off your half-decent stick broom called an "Oreck" Most Dysons go for 1/2 - 3/4 their retail price EASY! I just happened to find a RARE deal. Live in your delusional world, not much I can do but simply tell you the facts.

Hertz wrote:

Junk/scrap vacuums at less than 10 percent of cost ready for the salvage bin are junk.  China made, dyson, whatever the brand.  You didn't get a rare deal.  You got a rear deal.  Sugarcoat your purchase anyway you like.  They're junk.  It is what it is. 

Most retailers today in the USA are advertising NEW dysons at a minimum of 20 percent off retail prices and have been for quite awhile.  Plus retailers are giving customers who buy new dysons in store savings and buyer incentives like a free dyson handheld and/or free dyson attachment kits.  Where you been all your life.  Watching MTV?  Smell the crap.  See the junk.  Most places pay to have junk hauled to the dump by the pallet loads.  Instead, you paid them to remove it.  Real shrewd deal, alright.  Very rare indeed.  For them.  Not you.  You were flimflammed big time.  Plain and simple truth.

Carmine D.

Indeed.. upon looking upon EBAY UK this afternoon (my British time!) I noticed amongst the job lot of 5 Henry tub vacuums, a job lot of 3 Electrolux bagless uprights, a massive 10 job lot of Dyson DC04s for £150-00. Its been sat on for days and noone is hooking their lines. Why? Not because of the price but because most repairers know that cost effectively the DC04 isn't going to be a big seller due to its associated reliability problems even after repair!

Having done repair myself (I worked in a private shop for 3 years when I studied in London to see me through my course financially) I know that repairers will buy from EBAY for job lots but NOT Dyson models because:

1. Regardless of spare part prices, at trade costs they are more expensive without the VAT added in.
2. Dyson parts and spares usually involve having to buy the repair manuals which in Dyson's case consists of a hugely worded manual rather than single pages per model and you have to be registered by DYSON UK to have the user manual in the first place.
3. Models like DC04 with the expensive ratchet clutch Brush Control are notorious for breaking down even after a repair has been done.
4. Most upright models need specialised tools that allow the motors to be prised apart, not least star crossdrivers and flex neck screwdrivers.
   

Well I made a little video of my Sebo D cylinder last night. Ive never made a video before and finally worked out how to do it.

See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgjzfLj7Uc

vacmanuk wrote:

Cool! I have only one complaint -- I want to see the x-rated version.  One with a really dirty rug.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you Venson. I dont have dirty rugs or anything darker than beige in our home lol

vacmanuk wrote:

Thanks vacmanuk.  Good video.  V-e-r-y nice vacuum.  Like the LED variable suction dial.  Cordwinder would be a nice plus BUT at over 36 foot for power cord, winder would be weighty.

A comment on your vacuuming of the carpet in particular the speed of your back/forth motions.  I thought you are a tad bit fast.  Is this for video purposes or is that your normal speed?

I know what you thinking: Everybody's a critic............

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
LOL.. well that's the speed of the 2100 watt suction Carmine! Um.. I think its the camera since I was doing the same speed in the kitchen where you can see our old LG washing machine in the distance.
The D has an auto cord rewind as standard, thank god! I don't think I could handle having to lasso up 12 metres of cord. Review now on here about it in worded form and it beats Miele S5 on many points, particularly:

1. Lighter weight to carry/pull along.
2. Lighter tubes and lighter handle
3. Longer hose
4. No hot air facials
5. Boxes of 8 bags compared to Miele's 4 bags.
6. Filter set lasts double the amount of bags.
7. Quieter than Miele's S5.
8. Longer power cord than Miele or anything in the UK market presently.
   

vacmanuk wrote:

Thank you vacmanuk for all the clarifications including the cordwinder.  What are the benefits of the filter under the bag cover housing?  Is this unique to the SEBO D line of canns?  I haven't read your written review, so I apologize if you explained these matters already.  I will read and post any questions/comments after doing so. 

Carmine D.