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Trilobite
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Dyson DC33 Upright
Original Message Jul 3, 2010 8:50 pm |
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC33 Upright
Reply #10 Jul 6, 2010 6:57 pm |
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The clutch is a great future when it works, and for European carpets, it works great supposedly, which is WHY they keep using it. Dyson is a company that wouldn't use an inferior design that breaks easily - costing them money too. American carpets were just too thick for the assembly and thus they now use a two-motor system - one for brush one for the suction.
I agree. Trouble is that it's totally ineffective on some US carpets, usually the more expensive higher pile carpets, due to the floating nozzle head which bogs the brushbar down in the carpet. Result: The brushbar stops and the gawdawful ratcheting noise is enough to scare/upset all the pets and humans in the house not to mention its inability to vacuum the carpet. The clutch repair is costly at $90 to $135 depending on the parts replaced. Belt replacements are not a do-it-yourself item as most belt replacements are for other brands. Belt replacements are equally costly and time consuming compared to the rest of the industry brands and models. The clutch appeared on dyson's DC07 here in the USA which has been discontinued. For quite a few years now, in fact. It still appears on dyson's DC14 which is also on the path to discontinuation being sold on clearance/discount by all US retailers who still have in stock and on hand. The DC15, now extinct too never used the clutch. Neither do the DC17, 18, 24, 25 and 28. Not sure about the 27 and 33. Dyson had the sense to abandon clutch usage in most all subsequent upright models. A testament to its shortcomings in the USA. Scrubbing it was a good move but it took him a long time to realize what most others knew long before he did. It was a poor design feature for some American rugs and users, usually the more expensive and higher pile carpets used in up scale homes.
Carmine D.
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Hertz
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Re: Dyson DC33 Upright
Reply #11 Jul 7, 2010 8:15 am |
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I agree. Trouble is that it's totally ineffective on some US carpets, usually the more expensive higher pile carpets, due to the floating nozzle head which bogs the brushbar down in the carpet. Result: The brushbar stops and the gawdawful ratcheting noise is enough to scare/upset all the pets and humans in the house not to mention its inability to vacuum the carpet. The clutch repair is costly at $90 to $135 depending on the parts replaced. Belt replacements are not a do-it-yourself item as most belt replacements are for other brands. Belt replacements are equally costly and time consuming compared to the rest of the industry brands and models. The clutch appeared on dyson's DC07 here in the USA which has been discontinued. For quite a few years now, in fact. It still appears on dyson's DC14 which is also on the path to discontinuation being sold on clearance/discount by all US retailers who still have in stock and on hand. The DC15, now extinct too never used the clutch. Neither do the DC17, 18, 24, 25 and 28. Not sure about the 27 and 33. Dyson had the sense to abandon clutch usage in most all subsequent upright models. A testament to its shortcomings in the USA. Scrubbing it was a good move but it took him a long time to realize what most others knew long before he did. It was a poor design feature for some American rugs and users, usually the more expensive and higher pile carpets used in up scale homes. Carmine D. Right, obviously more R&D on American rugs would have been substantially beneficial, but he finally did make a high-quality dual motor system which, IMHO, makes his uprights some awesome machines! They're well made; durable plastics (better than any you'll find at Best Bu/Target, etc. besides some Electrolux's), Good motors (usually Panasonics I believe), high quality filtration (rated better than a Riccar and surprisingly a Sebo, which is hard to believe, however, like with any high and low end brand, there will be some models that have a few design flaws http://www.mieleusa.com/products/benefits/filtration.asp?nav=30&snav=24&tnav=26&oT=272&benefit=119). Either way, I say Dyson now makes a respectably high quality machine that is worthy of parting money with.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC33 Upright
Reply #12 Jul 7, 2010 8:42 am |
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Right, obviously more R&D on American rugs would have been substantially beneficial, but he finally did make a high-quality dual motor system which, IMHO, makes his uprights some awesome machines! They're well made; durable plastics (better than any you'll find at Best Bu/Target, etc. besides some Electrolux's), Good motors (usually Panasonics I believe), high quality filtration (rated better than a Riccar and surprisingly a Sebo, which is hard to believe, however, like with any high and low end brand, there will be some models that have a few design flaws http://www.mieleusa.com/products/benefits/filtration.asp?nav=30&snav=24&tnav=26&oT=272&benefit=119). Either way, I say Dyson now makes a respectably high quality machine that is worthy of parting money with.
Your opinion and you are entitled to it right or wrong.
Carmine D.
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vacmanuk
Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC33 Upright
Reply #15 Jul 9, 2010 3:04 am |
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Well they obviously are quality air purifiers, at least compared to a Riccar or Simplicity, and they clean the carpet damn well, AND, if maintained, least at least a good five + years (I've read longer, though, too). That's what I would classify as a quality machine. I think what it boils down to is realistic timeline usage and real time experience. Having experienced the older Dysons with brittle nasty beater bars that ruin carpet rather than actually lift the dirt out, I can't testify and say this new Dyson will be the same. Be careful when you quote "quality air purifiers," however - it isn't entirely fair that you're putting a BAGLESS against a BAGGED company and suggesting that a vacuum cleaner air filter is no less a substitute for a quality air purifier.
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