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Carmine D.

Hi Trilobite,

How are you?  Hope all is well. 

Thanks for the links.  It's hard to see what the difference is in this model from those prior save for the "free" dusting brush.  Companies here have done the same to stir interest.  I'm wonding however if this is a model intended only for this vendor as I did not find it when I checked out Dyson's UK site.

I did notice the price.  280 GBP (426 USD approx) if you buy it outright and 407 GBP (619 USD approx) if you use the156 week payment plan.  Wow!

Best,

Venson

Clutch is a mistake that dyson just won't let go off and get over and move on.  It's a terrible feature IMHO.  The cross breed of models is probably to use up old stock/parts on hand in conjunction with Venson's premise:  To make a retailer exclusive dyson model as part of a deal between dyson and the retailer.  Good way to generate new sales, use up old unusable inventory in the process give the appearance of a brand new model by giving a new number. 

Carmine D.

To tell you the truth, the only difference that I can see is that the handgrip on the wand has lost a little bulge.
Probably Dyson's attempt at shifting old stock.

Still no sign of Core Separator in our uprights, and no sign of the Digital motor in our cylinders (or uprights for that matter).

Not very inspiring, is it?

The most recent company line this was a couple of years ago, as explained by JD on the video linked on here:-
http://www.dyson.co.uk/insidedyson/default.asp#dc06

There was a newspaper article at the time of the Dyson Fan launch a few weeks ago, which suggested that Dyson had confirmed that a robot vacuum clearer would be lauched by them soon, but it was only one source and might have been mis-reported. The smaller digital motor, refined cyclone design and the advances in battery technology suggests it's more viable for them to enter this market with a 'proper' robotic vacuum cleaner. But quite when that'll be, remains to be seen.

I agree.  Trouble is that it's totally ineffective on some US carpets, usually the more expensive higher pile carpets, due to the floating nozzle head which bogs the brushbar down in the carpet.  Result: The brushbar stops and the gawdawful ratcheting noise is enough to scare/upset all the pets and humans in the house not to mention its inability to vacuum the carpet.  The clutch repair is costly at $90 to $135 depending on the parts replaced.  Belt replacements are not a do-it-yourself item as most belt replacements are for other brands.  Belt replacements are equally costly and time consuming compared to the rest of the industry brands and models.  The clutch appeared on dyson's DC07 here in the USA which has been discontinued.  For quite a few years now, in fact.  It still appears on dyson's DC14 which is also on the path to discontinuation being sold on clearance/discount by all US retailers who still have in stock and on hand.  The DC15, now extinct too never used the clutch.  Neither do the DC17, 18, 24, 25 and 28.  Not sure about the 27 and 33.  Dyson had the sense to abandon clutch usage in most all subsequent upright models.  A testament to its shortcomings in the USA.  Scrubbing it was a good move but it took him a long time to realize what most others knew long before he did.  It was a poor design feature for some American rugs and users, usually the more expensive and higher pile carpets used in up scale homes. 

Carmine D.

Your opinion and you are entitled to it right or wrong. 

Carmine D.

The issue is the price and whether worth the money.  I sprang $250 for a DC07 pink which was the max I'd spend.  I was not impressive even for that price.  The clutch and floating head were problematic on my carpets.  The only vacuum to date that has failed to do the job and the most expensive of all I used/purchased.

Carmine D. 

Venson

Things are a changing.

Carmine D.

Thanks Carmine,

I checked out the U.S. website and thar she was right thar.  That's supposed to mean 341 bucks and no more money spent.  OR do they mean the five-year warranty covers everything?  The company claims:

"*Total maintenance cost cover a five period is based on recommended filter and belt replacement information provided by each manufacturer."

Bissell Cleanview Helix (82H1) -- $212 (maintenance cost)

Hoover Anniversary Windtunnel (U6485900) -- $267 (maintenance cost)

(Please note that "a five period" is not a typo on my part. Text is exactly as input on the website.  See what happens? You charge a little less for your vacuum and you have to give up a proofreader.)

Venson

Hi Venson:

Good eye on the error.  Freudian slip, perhaps by the dyson people? 

That may be the implication by dyson and/or inferrence it hopes to elicit by readers.  But we know from experience that in 5 years, if that is the time frame, dyson wear and tear parts will fail/need replacement in dysons and are not covered by the limited warranty.  Recently, efforts in trying to locate a brush roll for a dyson upright, any dyson upright, on the dyson site, proved impossible.  Procare posted a case here along with that thread where a DC25 under warranty needed a brushroll and it end up costing $75 [have to buy brush with nozzle]. 

Include time to constantly dump the dyson dirt bins and clean the filters, if time is indeed money, and I suspect the money amounts for replacement bags and filters are paled in comparison by dyson.

Carmine D.

Carmine D.

Dyson offers free [until 9/9/10] the Pet Clean-up Kit, several tools, zorb, dyzolv with MSRP of $99, with the purchase of DC33 and other dyson uprights.  Dyson has made this offer along with free shipping for quite some time now.  Selected retailers of dyson vacuums make the same offer too.  I suspect this is a dyson marketing tool to compete with dyson retailers who are discounting new dysons as much as 25 percent from MSRP and have been the entire summer sales season.

Carmine D.

You don't know the sales trick.  The machine that goes last always picks up dirt after the vacuum that goes first.  I recently taught this gimmick to an unknowing sales person at Best Buy who was pushing dyson's DC28 to me for $600 [before in store savings and discounts].  Allowing him to use a DC28, which he set to low, and vacuuming a rug area thoroughly.   I then, after he decided he was finished and the rug clean, asked him to go over the very same area he just vacuumed with a DC14, also on display.  Big surprise for him.  The dirt bin in the DC14 picked up more dirt on and in the rug after just thoroughly using a DC28.  He was dumbfounded.  As I walked away from him and looked back at him, he was looking at me as though I was from the corporate office and there to test him on his knowledge, skills and abilities to sell Best Buy products.  He must have figured he just failed.  The rule is this:  A rug can hold its weight in dirt and still look clean to the human eye.  Go over any rug, even 7 times back and forth, and then use another vacuum, any vacuum presuming it is working properly, and the last vacuum will still pick up more dirt.  Why?  Because vacuuming, regardless of brand and model, never removes all the dirt all the time in a any rug/carpet.    This simple FACT sold many door to door vacuums for many years to unknowing homeowners and vacuum customers.  The trick is older than dirt itself but is still used and quoted as prima facia evidence of proof of better performance.  Except it isn't.  Why?  Because it never ceases to amaze the unknowing victims like yourself.

BTW, back on subject, the DC33 is a budget dyson upright model.  Selling retail at $319 before routine savings at most retailers of as much as 20 percent off.  For those who remember, this was the exact same price for DC07 All Floors sold on sale at Wal*Mart in 2004 and 2005.  The same price that caused the great feud between dyson and W*M.  Why?  Dyson said it violated dyson's MAP and had a hissy fit over it.  Leading to the conspicuous absence of new dyson vacuums from the W*M shelves for a few years until dyson and W*M kissed and made up.  Hard economic times since that falling out call for tough [read lower] pricing of products, even obviously for the once mighty dysons and its now obsolete and defunct MAP policy. 

Carmine D.

Carmine D.

Just testing to see if you are alert and reading here.

Carmine D.

Carmine D.