Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Tho a couple of months away, the VDTA is slotted for Vegas this year AND central vacuum systems, tho relatively new venue to the vacuum trade organization, are getting increased emphasis.

Carmine D.

SEBO have now put on English to describe their latest D series cylinder vacs.


For the D4 for example:

"...The SEBO AIRBELT D4 is equipped with a lot of extras which make your life easier. A cleaning range of 15.5 meters provides more flexibility. The 6l filter bag carries more. The optimized air flow and the tapered hose give more suction. The variable suction control in the ergonomic handle offers more convenience. The new illuminated power display with LED performance indicators shows the suction power. It rotates slowly at the lowest level and faster at the highest level.

Of course the SEBO AIRBELT D4 includes all SEBO standards and quality „Made in Germany”: high class S-class filtration, patented SEBO AIRBELT, versatile turning swivel neck, variable telescopic tube, integrated bag change indicator, gentle soft-start system. The SEBO AIRBELT D4 is additionally equipped with the high quality stainless steel telescopic tube. The quality construction and the ergonomic design show that SEBO stresses optimum function and longevity. Therefore the SEBO AIRBELT D4 is extremely cost-effective in use.

The design of the SEBO AIRBELT D differs clearly from the other SEBO models. In collaboration with the designer Prof. Achim Heine a new striking shape has been created: it is purposeful, stylish and unique. Two fundamental geometric shapes, a circle and a square, are united. The design epitomises the classic way of engineering which looks for the optimum form for the function. It is contrary to most other models where form inhibits function. The designer Prof. Achim Heine teaches “Product design” at the University of Arts in Berlin.

15.5 m cleaning range– for more manoeuvrability
6 l filter bag – for more capacity, economic in use
Illuminated power display with LED performance indicators
High quality stainless steel telescopic tube
Optimized air flow and tapered hose – for more suction
Variable suction control in the ergonomic handle
Includes the innovative SEBO KOMBI
3 integrated attachments on board– for more cleaning options..."

Further reading from the manual shows Sebo installing a slow turn on the rotary dial on the main body for slow suction and faster turn for faster suction.

By looking at their online manual, it says the airflow for their highest end model is only 45 liters/second, which equates to 95.349 CFM per http://www.onlineconversion.com/flow_rate_volume.htm. Their C-series has 170 CFM! That's nearly TWICE the cleaning power, right?! This is kind of worrying me on the performance aspect here 0_o. Anyone care to chime in? Maybe the suction and airflow together on this new machine will equal or beat the C-series. That's certainly my hope and guess. Has anyone used these yet? If so, what do you think of the performance?

The C series had a 1500 watt maximum motor. D series 1 and 2 has Eco friendly 1600 watt motors (*naturally they're going to be stronger than the C series) whilst the top level ones are 2100 watt, same as the K series.  I got mine the other day. You'll have to wait for the review though!

vacmanuk wrote:

You DO realize that just because it draws more wattage does NOT equal better performance, correct? It's still a bit disconcerting about their airflow ratings and it being basically half of what the C-series is, HOWEVER, again, that could just be all irrelevant numbers due to the a combination of the suction and possibly more HEAVY airflow (from stronger suction) equating just as good if not better performance. However, I'm very confident that due to it being Sebo they will only provide the near-highest or HIGHEST possible quality product, which I'm hoping is the case, but I'll wait for your review to confirm. SWEET! Can't wait! Just BE SURE to include pictures!!!! :D

Hertz wrote:
I dont tend to put on photos really. No point in that- otherwise I'd make a video - and I may do that in time.

Frankly I dont care much as to how much suction the machine draws out. I'm disappointed that SEBO have not stuck with the X bags though, The new D series uses a new bag designed only for this model. Always felt that it was from a better point of view to have the old X bag in the C cylinder as a matter of cost cutting but one that works well given the sales of the X model and availability of the bags. SEBO is not about offering the highest quality, Hertz, they are a design engineering company first and foremost.

vacmanuk wrote:

I think it's *GREAT* that they're going with a a bigger capacity which should ultimately equal lest cost to the consumer because instead of having to buy multiple smaller bags with all that plastic on them, you'll just be buying one BIGGER bag with just one set of plastic bits and bobs on the top for sealing and dispensing. Sure they design and engineer, but one of their main goals to offer HIGH quality products, and for the money you spend, I would say they're some of the highest quality out there, which is obviously their intent then. I would say, again, they both tie into each other in this case; design/engineering/quality. Please do a video soon then!

Using a basic Kirby flo meter the Miele pulls about 20 percent more airflo despit the 170 cu ft claim, I sell both, sorry I know this started as the vdta thread which I skipped this year

Actionvac wrote:

This was the worse year for VDTA attendance in the 3 years I've been here.  Not surprising. 

Carmine D.

PS: Correction 4 years.

Actionvac wrote:

Very interesting. Would you say a Miele would outlcean a SEBO however? And how does a Dyson compare in terms of waterlift and Airflow? DC-14, to be exact?

Well, it appears the HYCLEAN bags Miele introduced recently fixed the problem with S5's and dust leakage. 
The S5 Capricorn I tried out yesterday had its HYCLEAN bag nearly full, but no dust on the HEPA filter and airflow remained remarkably good.

As for SEBO, I've not seen the D4 anywhere around Portland OR, but I've not ventured into the niche dealers yet (the larger chains do carry Miele in quantity).