Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hey all, I have a burning moral issue; I LOVE Miele vacuums, and other bagged machines (Kirby, Electrolux, Sebo, Sweden Electrolux), but HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT do the bags and filters make on the environment?  ESPECIALLY Miele with all that unecessary plastic and metal on their bags and A LOT of unnecessary plastic on their filters?


What's your guys's opinion on this subject?

vacmanuk wrote:
This is in no way uncommon w/ companies.  If we look at AB Electrolux Group, we can see that they have always done this.  In the U.S., they had Eureka as their regular line, Sanitaire as their premium/heavy duty special vac shop line,  White-Westinghouse as their "budget" line and for a short time, they allowed distribution of the Viking line as another vac shop premium.  AB Electrolux did the same thing with their other appliance lines like major appliance brands.

Companies want a large slice of the pie and this is the way to do it.  You may think that they have a small slice of 5% , but w/the other brands they hold, they could hold  something like 7%.  It is all about reaching as much of the market as possible. Kirby had done it in the past w/Douglas.  They sold their premium Kirby, but also had a budget line-Douglas.  Not everyone can buy a Kirby, but some can afford a Douglas.  Some will not touch a Douglas power team, but were interested in a Kirby.

It is all about business.

vacmanuk wrote:

Well here's the opinion of an extremely enthusiastic and apparently knowleadgable vacuum collector who has extensive experience with very high-end vacuums like Sebo, Rainbow, and Aerus Electrolux, and he states that his UltraOne is *THE BEST* vacuum he's ever used, from performance, to noise, to suction, and the build quality seems good - not the best, but from what I can see, it looks good - possible even excellent. Here's his video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbMnAnUXJCE&fmt=18

I know this guy well on YT. I'll reserve my judgement until I try it. However a few interesting points: 1) The mini turbo tool is similar to the ones Electrolux have in the UK and as such don't have the flip lock to unlock the whole body. Thus you have to undo two screws to get into to clean it out. 2) I'd be doubtful whether this cylinder would be able to have lightweight pipes like Sebo's K series. I like lightweight pipes - makes it so much easier to lift, even if the you tube video owner may think otherwise with the tools that he says. I also find Sebo's pipes are a heck of lot lighter than Miele's ones. However I am impressed with the motor noise on this Ultra One.

Hertz wrote:

As of late.....i do believe BP has overshadowed the plastic/metal in bag/filter  situation....perhaps they could use all the used bags/filters  to help soak up some of that oil...i mean, they got hair in a tube.....im sure a nice full vac bag will soak up quite a bit of oil. Call it double duty...it could work....and this will give the [plastic/metal] bagged vacuum/filter  makers a chance to redeem themselves in the eyes of the enviromentalists/groups.

Repairs and services on vacs are up.....this is the time to go to all the vac shops and get all the used full vac bags they have and send them down there.....why not do that and get double duty out of them....any amount they soak up is just that much less contaminating our ocean and shores.....im sure you wont be turned away by the vac shops and by lunch youll have a truck load to deliver....if we can put a man on the moon [i think?].. this could work....use your connections/make calls  to make this happen. im sure they/you are willing to do whatever it takes to solve the problem.....this really can work.  so are you on board/their desperate for help , and tell us what they said.....i cant see them turning you or the idea away.....not on such a burning moral issue anyway....double duty from a plastic and metal cloth/paper  vac bag.....once again a bagged vac saves the day.......bagged is better.

turtle

Mike_W wrote:

Companies are expanding market share with more household appliances and acquiring brands of the same products. 

Carmine D.