Abby's Guide to Vacuum Cleaners
Username Password
Home Discussions Reviews More Guides

Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Search For:
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

New Oreck vacuums
Original Message   May 5, 2010 5:19 pm
Today I fortuitously stopped at the local Oreck dealer. 

Mike, the owner of several Oreck franchises and a few multi-brand stores had brought his new Edge upright from home, as stock had not arrived yet.

It has a more powerful motor, with a true  floating head. LED lights, infinite speed control AND and on-board stretch hose with a permanently attached telescopic crevice tool that is automatically active when the handle is in the upright position.  It lacks the Pilot's pivot head and the Halo's germ killing light. A model incorporating all three features is under development.  It is still easy to push, although it weighs 10 lb and requires a bit more effort than previous models.

There is a commercial OBT upright made by Stein (Sebo) that is very nice at only 450.00.  Oreck WILL be offering a bagless upright, but dealer participation is optional.  The new canister is color matched to the Edge and designed to be leaned on as the user vacuums stairs. Odd looking bare floor/crevice tool, no swivel neck. The bristles fold in to form the crevice tool, and the wand is inserted into a neck that curves more than 60 and less than 90 degrees, much like the OLD bare floor tools made of wood with the metal neck screwed on. A turbo tool is included and a dusting brush.

A cute little bagless canister is available for 49.99  Oreck has increased market share and has 89% brand recognition as a vacuum cleaner. They have become #1in  air purifier sales. (Mike did not say if that was dollar volume, or units or both.

The price of the Edge and matching canister will be about 750.00

Oreck is still marketing, still developing product, and still building a loyal customer base.
Replies: 40 - 49 of 244Next page of topicsPreviousNextNext page of topicsAllView as Outline
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #40   May 8, 2010 4:47 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Here's the EUREKA Sanitaire with F&G paper bags in an outer cloth:

This does not have the CRI seal but similar EUREKA commercial models did.  $140 MSRP  Meets OSHA requirements for commercial use and warranty.  Didn't make the weight cut off but close and may still be considered for future bulk buys. 

Carmine D.

          

Hi Carmine

In the cri im surprised that the commercial sanitaires/eureka either didnt show up or werent chosen gold standard....did any dyson or  8925/55 /20 ect riccar ever top the charts....anyway to all cri approved vacs of the past?

turtle

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #41   May 8, 2010 5:15 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:

Hi Carmine

In the cri im surprised that the commercial sanitaires/eureka either didnt show up or werent chosen gold standard....did any dyson or  8925/55 /20 ect riccar ever top the charts....anyway to all cri approved vacs of the past?

turtle


          

Few vacuum makers take the CRI seal of approval as serious as Dave Oreck.  ORECK has always been top rated by CRI since the entity started its program some 30 plus years ago.  ORECK had to take it serious because it was fighting with the big dogs for market share.  Dave knew this was a way to make his mark in the USA vacuum industry and he has every year.  When CRI tightened up its requirements a few years back after revamping and updating its testing, ORECK was the first to get all its upright vacuums, home and commercial, queued up for CRI approvals.  Not just a few but ALL.  Costs the vacuum makers to submit their products to CRI for testing and approval.

Many EUREKA Sanitaires are approved by CRI.  But EUREKA IMHO does not choose to submit all its upright vacuums for CRI testing and approval.  No dysons are CRI approved.  Never have been.  The closest dyson ever got to any CRI association was a picture of a DC14 on the CRI Web site years ago.  This lead some to opine and believe that dyson would be approved by CRI.    Didn't materialize. 

RICCAR and SIMPLICITY have their products, both ups and canns, approved by CRI.  Not sure what levels of approvals and seals.  I'm sure they do well.  Each higher level granted I believe calls for passing more CRI testing requirements.  GOLD is the highest.  All ORECK's upright vacuums except the bronze rated halo, rate GOLD which means the full blown set of tests.  Ironically, the halo is not ORECK grown but an acquisition from Ken Garcia for the UV-C technology. 

Carmine D.



HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #42   May 8, 2010 6:10 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Carmine

In the cri im surprised that the commercial sanitaires/eureka either didnt show up or werent chosen gold standard....did any dyson or  8925/55 /20 ect riccar ever top the charts....anyway to all cri approved vacs of the past?

turtle


          

Few vacuum makers take the CRI seal of approval as serious as Dave Oreck.  ORECK has always been top rated by CRI since the entity started its program some 30 plus years ago.  ORECK had to take it serious because it was fighting with the big dogs for market share.  Dave knew this was a way to make his mark in the USA vacuum industry and he has every year.  When CRI tightened up its requirements a few years back after revamping and updating its testing, ORECK was the first to get all its upright vacuums, home and commercial, queued up for CRI approvals.  Not just a few but ALL.  Costs the vacuum makers to submit their products to CRI for testing and approval.

Many EUREKA Sanitaires are approved by CRI.  But EUREKA IMHO does not choose to submit all its upright vacuums for CRI testing and approval.  No dysons are CRI approved.  Never have been.  The closest dyson ever got to any CRI association was a picture of a DC14 on the CRI Web site years ago.  This lead some to opine and believe that dyson would be approved by CRI.    Didn't materialize. 

RICCAR and SIMPLICITY have their products, both ups and canns, approved by CRI.  Not sure what levels of approvals and seals.  I'm sure they do well.  Each higher level granted I believe calls for passing more CRI testing requirements.  GOLD is the highest.  All ORECK's upright vacuums except the bronze rated halo, rate GOLD which means the full blown set of tests.  Ironically, the halo is not ORECK grown but an acquisition from Ken Garcia for the UV-C technology. 

Carmine D.



Dyson has no CRI approval.  Yet it out sells most if not  all that have it.  Why bother with the expanse.  Reminds me of THX approval.  Most non THX products perform as good or better.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #43   May 8, 2010 10:00 pm
Excerpted this from the CRI site, turtle:

Seal of Approval / Green Label Vacuum - Certified Vacuums


  

 

    
   
  
  


Gold LevelGold Level
  
 Model/ConfigurationUsage/TypeProvider/Manufacturer
 Riccar Brilliance Riccar Brilliance
Tandem Air System Air Hepa Bags
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar Radiance Riccar Radiance
Tandem Air System Hepa Bags
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL1A Riccar RSL1A
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL1AC Riccar RSL1AC
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Commercial
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL3 Riccar RSL3
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL3C Riccar RSL3C
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Commercial
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL4 SupraLite Riccar RSL4 SupraLite
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household & Commercial
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL5 Riccar RSL5
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar RSL5C Riccar RSL5C
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Commercial
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar Vibrance Delux Riccar Vibrance Delux
 
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar Vibrance Premium Riccar Vibrance Premium
 
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Riccar Vibrance Standard Riccar Vibrance Standard
 
Household
Upright
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website

Bronze LevelBronze Level
  
 Model/ConfigurationUsage/TypeProvider/Manufacturer
 Riccar Delux Pristine Canister Riccar Delux Pristine Canister
With type H synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household & Commercial
Canister
Riccar - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website

13 Product(s) Found Space FoundationSpace FoundationSpace Foundation

» back to top

This message was modified May 8, 2010 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #44   May 8, 2010 10:03 pm
For SIMPLICITY from CRI site, turtle

Seal of Approval / Green Label Vacuum - Certified Vacuums


  

 

    
   
  
  


Gold LevelGold Level
  
 Model/ConfigurationUsage/TypeProvider/Manufacturer
 Simplicity 3300C Simplicity 3300C
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Commercial
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity 3500C Simplicity 3500C
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Commercial
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity F3300 Simplicity F3300
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity F3500 Simplicity F3500
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity F3600 Freedom Simplicity F3600 Freedom
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household & Commercial
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity F3700 Simplicity F3700
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity F3700C Simplicity F3700C
With type F synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Commercial
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity Symmetry Delux Simplicity Symmetry Delux
 
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity Symmetry Premium Simplicity Symmetry Premium
 
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity Symmetry Standard Simplicity Symmetry Standard
 
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity Synchrony Simplicity Synchrony
Tandem Air System Air Hepa Bags
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website
 Simplicity Synergy Simplicity Synergy
Tandem Air System Air Hepa Bags
Household
Upright
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website

Bronze LevelBronze Level
  
 Model/ConfigurationUsage/TypeProvider/Manufacturer
 Simplicity Verve Simplicity Verve
With type H synthetic inner bag; cloth outer bag
Household & Commercial
Canister
Simplicity - Div. Tacony Corporation
Fenton, MO
636-349-3000
Visit Website

13 Product(s) Found Space FoundationSpace FoundationSpace Foundation

» back to top

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #45   May 9, 2010 8:37 am
Hello turtle:

Interestingly, Tacony, RICCAR/SIMPLICITY, takes the CRI seal seriously too.  Just as ORECK does.  The list of brand names who are CRI approved is impressive and appears to be growing year over year.  I opine that MIELE which is expanding its vacuum market in the USA with uprights and is not CRI approved will have to consider being approved. 

The ORECK Pilot, the latest and greatest upright in the ORECK reportoire, has the CRI seal of approval on the ORECK web site but not on the CRI web site.  There is a time lag for CRI updating its site.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #46   May 9, 2010 10:02 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello turtle:

Interestingly, Tacony, RICCAR/SIMPLICITY, takes the CRI seal seriously too.  Just as ORECK does.  The list of brand names who are CRI approved is impressive and appears to be growing year over year.  I opine that MIELE which is expanding its vacuum market in the USA with uprights and is not CRI approved will have to consider being approved. 

The ORECK Pilot, the latest and greatest upright in the ORECK reportoire, has the CRI seal of approval on the ORECK web site but not on the CRI web site.  There is a time lag for CRI updating its site.

Carmine D.



Do you think that the Miele performs as good as or better thatn the other brands you mentioned?
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #47   May 9, 2010 1:09 pm
Of course, with the exception of Miele, aren't all the other brands American?
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #48   May 9, 2010 1:31 pm
Turtle:  From the CRI site for EUREKA products:  Of note, if you check the Commercial line of vacuums on ORECK's web site you'll see several [3 I believe] Sanitaire uprights that have ORECK brand names.  Probably a partnership in line with what SEVERUS mentioned fro dyson and ORECK.

Carmine D. 

Seal of Approval / Green Label Vacuum - Certified Vacuums


  

 

    
   
  
  


Silver LevelSilver Level
  
 Model/ConfigurationUsage/TypeProvider/Manufacturer
 Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model  SC889A Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model SC889A
Type ST synthetic disposal dust bag with Arm & Hammer® odor control
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire S670D Sanitaire S670D
Type ST Inner Bag/Cloth Outer Bag Filter
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire S677D Sanitaire S677D
Type ST Inner Bag/Cloth Outer Bag Filter
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire SC678A Sanitaire SC678A
Type ST synthetic disposal dust bag with Arm & Hammer® odor control
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire SC688A Sanitaire SC688A
Type ST synthetic disposal dust bag with Arm & Hammer® odor control
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire SC883A Sanitaire SC883A
Type ST synthetic disposal dust bag with Arm & Hammer® odor control
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire SC888J Sanitaire SC888J
Type ST synthetic disposal dust bag with Arm & Hammer® odor control
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website

Bronze LevelBronze Level
  
 Model/ConfigurationUsage/TypeProvider/Manufacturer
 Sanitaire Lightweight SC785AT Sanitaire Lightweight SC785AT
Type SL Micro-lined Paper Inner Bag
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model  SC5713B Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model SC5713B
Micro-lined Type LS Paper Inner Bag
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model  SC5815B Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model SC5815B
Micro-lined Type LS Paper Inner Bag
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model  SC5845B Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model SC5845B
Bagless
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model  SC9150B Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model SC9150B
Type SD Micro-lined Paper Inner Bag
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model  SC9180B Sanitaire Quiet Clean Model SC9180B
Type SD Micro-lined Paper Inner Bag
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website
 Sanitaire S782B Sanitaire S782B
Type SL Micro-lined Paper Inner Bag
Commercial
Upright
Electrolux Home Care Products NA
Bloomington, IL
800-800-8975
Visit Website

14 Product(s) Found Space FoundationSpace FoundationSpace Foundation

» back to top

This message was modified May 9, 2010 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #49   May 9, 2010 1:39 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Of course, with the exception of Miele, aren't all the other brands American?



CRI approved brands are sold in the American market.  If you click on the ALL MANUFACTURERS cell you'll get all the vacuum brands included in the CRI program. 

Carmine D.

Replies: 40 - 49 of 244Next page of topicsPreviousNextNext page of topicsAllView as Outline
Vacuum Cleaners Guide   •   Discussions  Reviews  
AbbysGuide.com   About Us   Terms of Use   Privacy Policy   Contact Us
Copyright 1998-2024 AbbysGuide.com. All rights reserved.