Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Today I fortuitously stopped at the local Oreck dealer. 

Mike, the owner of several Oreck franchises and a few multi-brand stores had brought his new Edge upright from home, as stock had not arrived yet.

It has a more powerful motor, with a true  floating head. LED lights, infinite speed control AND and on-board stretch hose with a permanently attached telescopic crevice tool that is automatically active when the handle is in the upright position.  It lacks the Pilot's pivot head and the Halo's germ killing light. A model incorporating all three features is under development.  It is still easy to push, although it weighs 10 lb and requires a bit more effort than previous models.

There is a commercial OBT upright made by Stein (Sebo) that is very nice at only 450.00.  Oreck WILL be offering a bagless upright, but dealer participation is optional.  The new canister is color matched to the Edge and designed to be leaned on as the user vacuums stairs. Odd looking bare floor/crevice tool, no swivel neck. The bristles fold in to form the crevice tool, and the wand is inserted into a neck that curves more than 60 and less than 90 degrees, much like the OLD bare floor tools made of wood with the metal neck screwed on. A turbo tool is included and a dusting brush.

A cute little bagless canister is available for 49.99  Oreck has increased market share and has 89% brand recognition as a vacuum cleaner. They have become #1in  air purifier sales. (Mike did not say if that was dollar volume, or units or both.

The price of the Edge and matching canister will be about 750.00

Oreck is still marketing, still developing product, and still building a loyal customer base.

CarmineD wrote:

You avoided my question as usual.  What a salesman.

HARDSELL wrote:

A common vacuum consumer problem, especially for the uninformed and lazy, is not knowing what to buy.  Buyers expect the "pros" to tell them what to buy and why.  [I wonder if they make other purchases that way?]  No doubt the reason, in part, Consumer Reports has 20 million faithful monthly readers. 

BTW, I never considered myself a salesman let alone a very good one.  I was told by many customers that I was "too honest" to be a salesman for any one brand/model.   I considered myself a vacuum industry business man and sales was just one part of the business.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine - as Ive said before, this is a Sebo commercial model based on the BS36. Weighs in at around 8.6kg. Hardly lightweight like the rest of the Oreck range.

vacmanuk wrote:

I know you did and knew you would again.  Very impressive vacuum.  The ORECK XL Pro 14T above weighs in at 19 pounds. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hi carmine

Yup thats the one...looks solid. wish they woulda stayed with the oreck bag somehow...they filter great and nice size....hows it clean compared to the other  orecks.

turtle

CarmineD wrote:

You liberally spout negative comments about Dyson.  A real pro doesn't do this way.  When asked a simple question that you can't answer you always try to twist out of the hold.  Further evidence that you are lost when it comes to being a pro. I can see you are on the canvas.  Go to the corner and sit on the stool awhile.

I never expected or wanted you to tell me what to buy.  I simply asked you to refer me to the info that you said is so readilly available.  It ain't there and you fell on your rear.  More of the SOS as I said.

You once told us that you would give bad info to close a sale at week's end.  Now you say you were too honest.  I believe the first story.

HARDSELL wrote:

I didn't say I was too honest to sell one brand.... my customers did.  I sodl several brand/s and models concurrently.  Never ORECK except rebuilt/used.  I had the chance right from Dave Oreck.  But turned hiom down. 

Despite the huge mark ups on new dysons [once bragged about by a dyson fan who no longer posts here] I would never sell them unless a customer absolutely insisted.  It's never about the money from one time sales.  It's about building a lasting business realtionship with your customers.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Comparable performance.  Has replaceable brush strips, slightly stiffer than home use ORECK's, which are ideal for commercial use.  2 year warranty.  $400-$500 retail.  Good vacuum for the money.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Enough of the ad nauseum about you.  Where is the info that consumers need to make a buying decision? 

HARDSELL wrote:

I'd prefer to talk about vacuums and your likes and dislikes in those regards. 

You are one consumer not plural.  What's good for you is not good for consumers and vice versa.   You are a perfect candidate for a new dyson and I have said so on several occasions asking what you liked in the new dyson line up.  You tend toward trendy and innovative designed products with high prices and middlin performance.  Dyson's strong points.  Definitely avoid the ORECK brand.  Too old and staunch for a fad status buyer like yourself.  Although I said I would carry and sell dysons to customers who absolutely insisted, you are exception.  I would, based on what I know from your posts here, refer you to a big box retailer.  When I had my store business I did that on some occasions.  Knowing what to sell and when to sell and who to sell, oftentimes has nothing to do with the products but the people.  Some people are just hard to sell.

I hope my honesty doesn't offend you.

Carmine D.