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Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

New Oreck vacuums
Original Message   May 5, 2010 5:19 pm
Today I fortuitously stopped at the local Oreck dealer. 

Mike, the owner of several Oreck franchises and a few multi-brand stores had brought his new Edge upright from home, as stock had not arrived yet.

It has a more powerful motor, with a true  floating head. LED lights, infinite speed control AND and on-board stretch hose with a permanently attached telescopic crevice tool that is automatically active when the handle is in the upright position.  It lacks the Pilot's pivot head and the Halo's germ killing light. A model incorporating all three features is under development.  It is still easy to push, although it weighs 10 lb and requires a bit more effort than previous models.

There is a commercial OBT upright made by Stein (Sebo) that is very nice at only 450.00.  Oreck WILL be offering a bagless upright, but dealer participation is optional.  The new canister is color matched to the Edge and designed to be leaned on as the user vacuums stairs. Odd looking bare floor/crevice tool, no swivel neck. The bristles fold in to form the crevice tool, and the wand is inserted into a neck that curves more than 60 and less than 90 degrees, much like the OLD bare floor tools made of wood with the metal neck screwed on. A turbo tool is included and a dusting brush.

A cute little bagless canister is available for 49.99  Oreck has increased market share and has 89% brand recognition as a vacuum cleaner. They have become #1in  air purifier sales. (Mike did not say if that was dollar volume, or units or both.

The price of the Edge and matching canister will be about 750.00

Oreck is still marketing, still developing product, and still building a loyal customer base.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #91   May 12, 2010 8:26 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
Hi Carmine

Orecks guarentee is rock solid....excellent customer service....on trade ins-returns -repairs and sales.

A w\t deep cleaer it isnt,,, but a commercial to low pile heavy duty cleaner it is....commercial tough...just wish it wasnt so loud. cant really use during work hours.

How do you rate the old xl pro clean air upright.....never had a chance to try one out.....so whats your take on it.

turtle



Turtle:

This is the discontinued ORECK model with companion compact canister that COSTCO is selling starting tomorrow for $240.  Hard to beat for the price.  Check out the site/COSTCO store.  Has my interest for that price.  3 year warranty.  8 bags.  Perfect for gift giving and/or personal use.

Carmine D.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11500422&whse=BC&Ne=5000001%204000000&eCat=BC|103|4716&N=4000044%204294966284&Mo=0&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&topnav=

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #92   May 12, 2010 8:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
ORECK has the halo which comes with on-board attachments.  As well as several of its Commercial grade uprights.  WRT ORECK fans, I believe the latest ORECK uprights have lexan fans which is a material that may chip and scratch but reduces the likelihood of breakage from hard items.   I mentioned this before here and will repeat if you missed.  I know current industry people who worked for RICCAR/SIMPLICITY and moved over to ORECK.  They maintain that based on their personal and professional experience, they have found more fan breakage in the R-S uprights than in ORECK uprights. 

Carmine D.


Oreck-Halo.  Halo-Oreck.  Who's your daddy?

Are you sincere about Oreck hiring someone who might bring them into this century?  Guess they have learned from Dyson.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #93   May 12, 2010 10:00 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Oreck-Halo.  Halo-Oreck.  Who's your daddy?

Are you sincere about Oreck hiring someone who might bring them into this century?  Guess they have learned from Dyson.



Quite honestly, could very well be a moot point for the industry in rather very short order.  If you know what I mean.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #94   May 12, 2010 10:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Turtle:

This is the discontinued ORECK model with companion compact canister that COSTCO is selling starting tomorrow for $240.  Hard to beat for the price.  Check out the site/COSTCO store.  Has my interest for that price.  3 year warranty.  8 bags.  Perfect for gift giving and/or personal use.

Carmine D.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11500422&whse=BC&Ne=5000001%204000000&eCat=BC|103|4716&N=4000044%204294966284&Mo=0&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&topnav=



Hi Carmine

Im sorry,,,i meant the upro14 clean air ,,,looks like a elux 2mtr.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #95   May 13, 2010 7:39 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
Hi Carmine

Im sorry,,,i meant the upro14 clean air ,,,looks like a elux 2mtr.

Hello turtle:  This is one of the Commercial uprights that I had in mind with my post to vacmanuk.  Meets the requirements he listed.  IMHO a good product.

Carmine D.


 

 
Advanced Features
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  • Durable Dual-Motor complete cleaning system features a 14 inch cleaning path.
  • Quiet operating vacuum – ideal for minimum noise areas.
  • Full set of attachments includes upholstery brush, dusting brush, and crevice tool.
  • Telescopic wand and stretch hose extend more than 9 feet for convenient above-the-floor cleaning.
  • Roller brush motor automatically turns off protecting carpet when tools are in use.
  • Balanced center of gravity prevents tipping when using accessories.
  • Overload protection protects motor and belt.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #96   May 13, 2010 7:45 am
HARDSELL wrote:
How does one research if no data is available?  $150 would be money wasted it the vac doesn't perform or fails in a short time.

BB allows 30 days on vacuums. Sears, WM, Lowes and HD allow 90 days.  Costco 1 year.  No questions asked. Even Ol Dave can't beat that when you consider that you overpaid for an electric broom if you keep the Oreck.  BTW, the freebies (worth more than the vac) are not included in the lesser priced Oreck deals.  Neither is the hand held.  By your own admittance (professional view) the Oreck is not a deep cleaning machine. 



Honestly, this site is an excellent place to start.  Laziness with lack of interest are excuses for saying no data is available.  Informed consumers are the vacuum industry's best customers to sell. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #97   May 13, 2010 8:04 am
CarmineD wrote:
Honestly, this site is an excellent place to start.  Laziness and lack of interest are excuses for saying no data is available, so I don't know what to buy.  An informed consumer is the vacuum industry's best customer a dishonest sale's person's hardest customer to sell.

Carmine D.



It is the SOS on this site daily.  Show me the info that would be useful in determining whether to buy a Navigator.

A well informed customer is dangerous to a self proclaimed pro.  A customer that is misinformed by a self proclaimed pro is like a fish out of water.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #98   May 13, 2010 8:10 am
HARDSELL wrote:
It is the SOS on this site daily.  Show me the info that would be useful in determining whether to buy a Navigator.

A well informed customer is dangerous to a self proclaimed pro.  A customer that is misinformed by a self proclaimed pro is like a fish out of water.



http://www.abbysguide.com/vacuum/discussions/42930-0-1.html

A well informed vacuum buyer is the easiest customer to sell.  Match the right vacuum product to an informed vacuum buyer and it sells itself.  ORECK will always take back its new vacuums before 30 days and all the big box retailers have return policies.  Some better than others. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #99   May 13, 2010 9:05 am
CarmineD wrote:
http://www.abbysguide.com/vacuum/discussions/42930-0-1.html

A well informed vacuum buyer is the easiest customer to sell.  Match the right vacuum product to an informed vacuum buyer and it sells itself.  ORECK will always take back its new vacuums before 30 days and all the big box retailers have return policies.  Some better than others. 

Carmine D.



You avoided my question as usual.  What a salesman.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #100   May 13, 2010 12:49 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You avoided my question as usual.  What a salesman.


A common vacuum consumer problem, especially for the uninformed and lazy, is not knowing what to buy.  Buyers expect the "pros" to tell them what to buy and why.  [I wonder if they make other purchases that way?]  No doubt the reason, in part, Consumer Reports has 20 million faithful monthly readers. 

BTW, I never considered myself a salesman let alone a very good one.  I was told by many customers that I was "too honest" to be a salesman for any one brand/model.   I considered myself a vacuum industry business man and sales was just one part of the business.  

Carmine D.

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