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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #136 May 5, 2010 7:02 am |
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CR has ratings for both the Shark Navigator NV22 and the Dyson DC24 on their web site. the Shark has a slightly higher overall rating, but the 2 excel in different areas. The Dyson had a higher score for emissions, but a lower score for pet hair. It was surprising to me that the Dyson's score for cleaning with tools was poor. Handling was better for the Dyson according to CR. It goes to show that constant suction is only a plus when the constant level is adequate. User ratings on the CR web site for the Dyson averaged 3.5 out of 5 stars. the Navigator review is fairly new, so I didn't see any user reviews yet.
CR has added a bunch of new LG vacuum models to the ratings.
Hello SEVERUS:
DC24 has very weak suction both in upright and tool mode. If I recall right only 112 AW. Wimpy. Lousy brush roll too. More a stick vacuum than lightweight upright. In comparison, DC25 is a much better equipped product for valid comparison to Shark Navigator Pet all around including price. No doubt the reason Shark chose it as its product for marketing comparison. DC24 fails miserably except in price at MSRP $399. Way over priced and the reason most retail for $299. Still overpriced. Carmine D.
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Lucky1
Joined: Jan 2, 2008
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #137 May 5, 2010 1:19 pm |
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Well gang, no matter what you think of the Navigator -- I sold one today. The only problem with the sale is that there goes another commision -- Costco hasn't hired me yet . . . Though I came in for trash bags and spaghetti, I went to check out the vacuum aisle as usual and stopped not so much because there was anything new but because someone had finally unboxed one of the Navigators and left it out for display. There was also a lady standing there looking at it so I took the machine down from the shelf (four feet off the floor) so we both could have a better look at it. Even though we couldn't plug it in, naturally, I got to running my mouth and showed her how to use the hose, how the machine emptied and where the filters and cyclonic module were. Regarding that matter, I took special care to inform her that though the Navigator is bagless the filters and the cyclonics module would require washing as needed. A real surprise for me was that when I removed the container that holds the filter(s) I hadn't realized that not one but three layers of thick foam were in place. She's an apartment dweller and should be fine. I won't lay this all on expertise -- teh price for the Navigator at my Costco was $160. It proved quite a tempting choice against the $400 Dyson and the $298 Oreck set. The only thing cheaper was the Hoover Dura at $134 but it was left out on display completely disheveled. Venson What did you recommend for her to buy next year?
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #138 May 5, 2010 1:25 pm |
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What did you recommend for her to buy next year?
FWIW Lucky1, buying from COSTCO she can easily return her prurchase USED after a year and even longer for a store credit/refund. Nice thing about buying from COSTCO.
Carmine D. PS: I should add too that there are no questions asked. No need for receipt. No box. They have on-line records to confirm.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #139 May 5, 2010 2:45 pm |
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What did you recommend for her to buy next year?
Hi Lucky1,
I am thoroughly aware of the company's past history and I understand you're feeling on this but I whole-heartedly feel that with care you may be able to gety by. To me the idea is worth a shot. That is why I was very careful to make the person in question aware of the importance of care. As to failure due to defect as opposed to lack of care, I have had all sorts of experiences. As an instance, I still have a super-suction bagless VN1400P Black & Decker canister in which the little motor that ran the rachet-style pleated filter cleaner -- purported to make lik easy -- died before even a half dozen uses. I remember the pleated filter Euro-Pro bagless I owned and what a disappoint ment that was. Nonetheless let me be honest. Yes I do own a coupe of Mieles but I bought those when it was easy for me to acquire them. If I'm looking for a vacuum now, when the budget is substantially challenged and a grand, 800 bucks or even 300 is not in the picture are not in the picture what do I buy? That's why the Navigator selling. Venson
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #140 May 5, 2010 5:49 pm |
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Hi Lucky1, I am thoroughly aware of the company's past history and I understand you're feeling on this but I whole-heartedly feel that with care you may be able to gety by. To me the idea is worth a shot. That is why I was very careful to make the person in question aware of the importance of care. As to failure due to defect as opposed to lack of care, I have had all sorts of experiences. As an instance, I still have a super-suction bagless VN1400P Black & Decker canister in which the little motor that ran the rachet-style pleated filter cleaner -- purported to make lik easy -- died before even a half dozen uses. I remember the pleated filter Euro-Pro bagless I owned and what a disappoint ment that was. Nonetheless let me be honest. Yes I do own a coupe of Mieles but I bought those when it was easy for me to acquire them. If I'm looking for a vacuum now, when the budget is substantially challenged and a grand, 800 bucks or even 300 is not in the picture are not in the picture what do I buy? That's why the Navigator selling. Venson Hi Venson With the 5 yr wrty..and costcos very open return policy and at $200-160.....its really worth a shot. As far as quality goes id say they have addressed the non-washable cyclone issue and have made it user friendly from what ive seen...not some others that are a nightmare to deal with...so perhaps they have also solved the other quality issues of the past...within a year youll either be happy with your purchase..or hate it. ...return it and try out another kind....thats the honest truth on what id do....
turtle
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #141 May 6, 2010 7:13 am |
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Hi Venson With the 5 yr wrty..and costcos very open return policy and at $200-160.....its really worth a shot. As far as quality goes id say they have addressed the non-washable cyclone issue and have made it user friendly from what ive seen...not some others that are a nightmare to deal with...so perhaps they have also solved the other quality issues of the past...within a year youll either be happy with your purchase..or hate it. ...return it and try out another kind....thats the honest truth on what id do....
turtle
Agree with you turtle1. As I think COSTCO stores and customers would too. I recall COSTCO carried and sold the very first Shark Infinity upright [also washable cyclones] with much sales success from what I saw and heard. If it were a flop I doubt COSTCO stores would have the latest edition. COSTCO can easily take back almost 3 of these Sharks at $150 for each one of the almost soon to be discountinued d brand model 14 for $399. I predict the latter d model will soon be a COSTCO clearance item at $200-$250. Question is whether COSTCO will advertise the sale and/or just mark them down in the store as a clearance as it did with the DC18 Slim [long gone and forgotten].
Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #142 Jun 12, 2010 3:43 pm |
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I've had my mind on many things lately and haven't had time to check up on stuff in as timely a fashion as I'd like. If the following info has already been posted, please forgive my oversight. In any event, I hadn't been hooked up with Consumer Reports for a while but they've repeatedly sent me "We want you back" emails. This time they proved it. They knocked five bucks off my one-year online subscription. CR rated the Navigator as excellent re pet hair pick up but only good for carpet cleaning. I don't see that as a major fault one way or the other -- it's good to be good. It also ranked nicely in regard to emissions, tool air flow and noise levels. There were a good number of reviews for other vacuums in the $60.00 to $200 price range with nice reviews. Thus there appears to be some hope for those facing budget crunches this year. Best, Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #143 Jun 12, 2010 6:38 pm |
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I've had my mind on many things lately and haven't had time to check up on stuff in as timely a fashion as I'd like. If the following info has already been posted, please forgive my oversight. In any event, I hadn't been hooked up with Consumer Reports for a while but they've repeatedly sent me "We want you back" emails. This time they proved it. They knocked five bucks off my one-year online subscription. CR rated the Navigator as excellent re pet hair pick up but only good for carpet cleaning. I don't see that as a major fault one way or the other -- it's good to be good. It also ranked nicely in regard to emissions, tool air flow and noise levels. There were a good number of reviews for other vacuums in the $60.00 to $200 price range with nice reviews. Thus there appears to be some hope for those facing budget crunches this year. Best, Venson
Hi Venson:
Very interesting. Thanks for the info. I'm impressed with this product so far. Lightweight. Price is right. Performance is on par with the higher priced bagless. Easy to clean/maintain 21 cyclones. 6 year warranty. CR is high on it. All the right stuff for a value vacuum. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #145 Aug 14, 2010 2:42 pm |
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Howdy, For those of you that shop Costco, I just received this month's coupon book in the mail and a $30-off coupon is being offered for the Shark Navigator bagless upright. It's good from August 19th to September 19th. If you you've been seriously kicking around the idea of getting the Navigator, this coupon may help cinch the deal. It sells at my eastcoast Costco for 160 bucks so the $30 off may make you stop and think wherever its sold. (I am assuming the Costco price is the same across the country.) The price break is great and the 5-year warranty still stands. (No I have no affiliation with Costco or its subsidiaries. They only get half my money and still don't even know my name.) Best, Venson
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