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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #131 May 4, 2010 7:48 pm |
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SFB It should definitely out perform Oreck. Oreck has a large bag that it can't fill for months (maybe a year) due to poor performance. The Navigator has a small cup which it could likely fill in one pass behind an Oreck. Thanks for your continued flattery to Dyson. The most envied brand on the market. And the one who sucker punched old SFB.
Turdsell:
This thread is about Shark Navigator Pet but you still have ORECK stuck in your craw. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #132 May 4, 2010 8:45 pm |
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Turdsell: This thread is about Shark Navigator Pet but you still have ORECK stuck in your craw. Carmine D. Still dazed I see. Most threads are not about Dyson. However, you always compare Dyson to all discussed brands. Again, thanks for the flattery. Dyson, the most envied vacuum ever.
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Venson
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #134 May 5, 2010 2:15 am |
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #136 May 5, 2010 7:02 am |
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CR has ratings for both the Shark Navigator NV22 and the Dyson DC24 on their web site. the Shark has a slightly higher overall rating, but the 2 excel in different areas. The Dyson had a higher score for emissions, but a lower score for pet hair. It was surprising to me that the Dyson's score for cleaning with tools was poor. Handling was better for the Dyson according to CR. It goes to show that constant suction is only a plus when the constant level is adequate. User ratings on the CR web site for the Dyson averaged 3.5 out of 5 stars. the Navigator review is fairly new, so I didn't see any user reviews yet.
CR has added a bunch of new LG vacuum models to the ratings.
Hello SEVERUS:
DC24 has very weak suction both in upright and tool mode. If I recall right only 112 AW. Wimpy. Lousy brush roll too. More a stick vacuum than lightweight upright. In comparison, DC25 is a much better equipped product for valid comparison to Shark Navigator Pet all around including price. No doubt the reason Shark chose it as its product for marketing comparison. DC24 fails miserably except in price at MSRP $399. Way over priced and the reason most retail for $299. Still overpriced. Carmine D.
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Lucky1
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #137 May 5, 2010 1:19 pm |
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Well gang, no matter what you think of the Navigator -- I sold one today. The only problem with the sale is that there goes another commision -- Costco hasn't hired me yet . . . Though I came in for trash bags and spaghetti, I went to check out the vacuum aisle as usual and stopped not so much because there was anything new but because someone had finally unboxed one of the Navigators and left it out for display. There was also a lady standing there looking at it so I took the machine down from the shelf (four feet off the floor) so we both could have a better look at it. Even though we couldn't plug it in, naturally, I got to running my mouth and showed her how to use the hose, how the machine emptied and where the filters and cyclonic module were. Regarding that matter, I took special care to inform her that though the Navigator is bagless the filters and the cyclonics module would require washing as needed. A real surprise for me was that when I removed the container that holds the filter(s) I hadn't realized that not one but three layers of thick foam were in place. She's an apartment dweller and should be fine. I won't lay this all on expertise -- teh price for the Navigator at my Costco was $160. It proved quite a tempting choice against the $400 Dyson and the $298 Oreck set. The only thing cheaper was the Hoover Dura at $134 but it was left out on display completely disheveled. Venson What did you recommend for her to buy next year?
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #138 May 5, 2010 1:25 pm |
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What did you recommend for her to buy next year?
FWIW Lucky1, buying from COSTCO she can easily return her prurchase USED after a year and even longer for a store credit/refund. Nice thing about buying from COSTCO.
Carmine D. PS: I should add too that there are no questions asked. No need for receipt. No box. They have on-line records to confirm.
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Venson
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #139 May 5, 2010 2:45 pm |
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What did you recommend for her to buy next year?
Hi Lucky1,
I am thoroughly aware of the company's past history and I understand you're feeling on this but I whole-heartedly feel that with care you may be able to gety by. To me the idea is worth a shot. That is why I was very careful to make the person in question aware of the importance of care. As to failure due to defect as opposed to lack of care, I have had all sorts of experiences. As an instance, I still have a super-suction bagless VN1400P Black & Decker canister in which the little motor that ran the rachet-style pleated filter cleaner -- purported to make lik easy -- died before even a half dozen uses. I remember the pleated filter Euro-Pro bagless I owned and what a disappoint ment that was. Nonetheless let me be honest. Yes I do own a coupe of Mieles but I bought those when it was easy for me to acquire them. If I'm looking for a vacuum now, when the budget is substantially challenged and a grand, 800 bucks or even 300 is not in the picture are not in the picture what do I buy? That's why the Navigator selling. Venson
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retardturtle1
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #140 May 5, 2010 5:49 pm |
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Hi Lucky1, I am thoroughly aware of the company's past history and I understand you're feeling on this but I whole-heartedly feel that with care you may be able to gety by. To me the idea is worth a shot. That is why I was very careful to make the person in question aware of the importance of care. As to failure due to defect as opposed to lack of care, I have had all sorts of experiences. As an instance, I still have a super-suction bagless VN1400P Black & Decker canister in which the little motor that ran the rachet-style pleated filter cleaner -- purported to make lik easy -- died before even a half dozen uses. I remember the pleated filter Euro-Pro bagless I owned and what a disappoint ment that was. Nonetheless let me be honest. Yes I do own a coupe of Mieles but I bought those when it was easy for me to acquire them. If I'm looking for a vacuum now, when the budget is substantially challenged and a grand, 800 bucks or even 300 is not in the picture are not in the picture what do I buy? That's why the Navigator selling. Venson Hi Venson With the 5 yr wrty..and costcos very open return policy and at $200-160.....its really worth a shot. As far as quality goes id say they have addressed the non-washable cyclone issue and have made it user friendly from what ive seen...not some others that are a nightmare to deal with...so perhaps they have also solved the other quality issues of the past...within a year youll either be happy with your purchase..or hate it. ...return it and try out another kind....thats the honest truth on what id do....
turtle
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