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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #104 Apr 30, 2010 7:57 am |
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From the W*M web site for vacuums. Of 173 reviews by Walmart customers the Shark Navigator gets almost 5 stars. Picture gives a good view of the lightweight bagless vacuum, its brush roll and see thru washable cyclones and bin. This is either a W*M exclusive or not the latest Shark Navigator [latter is more likely the case] which is available in Lavender now. Carmine D.
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #105 Apr 30, 2010 8:50 am |
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QVC sells the Shark navigator Lavender for $170. Here's a video from its web site which gives a good sense of the noise level during operation with and without the brush roll engaged. The TV demo-ers are talking in their regular voices while taking the Shark Navigator through its steps. Also demoes and features the extra long hose for vacuuming steps and stairwells. QVC calls the Shark Navigator a top rated seller with 91 percent of the buyers recommending to others. http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/view.2/app.detail/params.CM_SCID.COLL.item.V29525.desc.Shark-Navigator-Upright-Vacuum-w-Power-Brush-Accessories Impressive for the price. Note the "Never Loses Suction" imprinted on the latest Shark Navigator Lavender in the demoes vice the previous Shark Model which does not carry the claim. I suspect the patent receipt makes the difference in the usage of this product claim on the Shark Navigator. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #106 May 2, 2010 6:32 pm |
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QVC sells the Shark navigator Lavender for $170. Here's a video from its web site which gives a good sense of the noise level during operation with and without the brush roll engaged. The TV demo-ers are talking in their regular voices while taking the Shark Navigator through its steps. Also demoes and features the extra long hose for vacuuming steps and stairwells. QVC calls the Shark Navigator a top rated seller with 91 percent of the buyers recommending to others. http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/view.2/app.detail/params.CM_SCID.COLL.item.V29525.desc.Shark-Navigator-Upright-Vacuum-w-Power-Brush-Accessories Impressive for the price. Note the "Never Loses Suction" imprinted on the latest Shark Navigator Lavender in the demoes vice the previous Shark Model which does not carry the claim. I suspect the patent receipt makes the difference in the usage of this product claim on the Shark Navigator. Carmine D.
Ive read and seen where the dyson brushroll has undergone alot of r&d...to make it as good or better than the rest. yet many still say its sub par and doesnt deep clean. ...and if the build up of dirt in the cyclones has been an issue since the start with dyson why have they yet to fix this problem/s....or at least make the cyclones washable......shark seems to have addressed these issues from what ive read...why is dyson not using 400 engineers to address the issues that have been a problem from the start....yet a ball was the more important issue..airmuscle tech .....why complicate the simple....shark seems to have kept it simple and address dysons issues at a third to half the price
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #107 May 3, 2010 7:04 am |
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Ive read and seen where the dyson brushroll has undergone alot of r&d...to make it as good or better than the rest. yet many still say its sub par and doesnt deep clean. ...and if the build up of dirt in the cyclones has been an issue since the start with dyson why have they yet to fix this problem/s....or at least make the cyclones washable......shark seems to have addressed these issues from what ive read...why is dyson not using 400 engineers to address the issues that have been a problem from the start....yet a ball was the more important issue..airmuscle tech .....why complicate the simple....shark seems to have kept it simple and address dysons issues at a third to half the price turtle
To dyson's credit, it finally after 8 consecutive years of worst uprights and cyclinders ratings in Europe earned respect from Which? for its products. Sadly, it hasn't done the same in the USA with Consumer Reports. Got on the fringes of top 10 with DC17 at a 10/11 rating but never higher. Some here indluding dyson fans maintained that winning CR's respect in the reviews and ratings was tantamount to success. Hasn't happened yet and it's been 8 years since the USA launch.
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #109 May 3, 2010 8:01 am |
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The thing is though, I don't consider this Shark to be a proper upright vacuum. It looks like a stick vac with a powered motor head on it, similar to Sebo's Felix upright. Therefore can it actually be a flagrant copy of Dyson at the third of price? That filtration system also looks very similar to the one adopted on Bissell's Easy Vac too:
The Shark Navigator Pet is classified as a lightweight at 15 pounds. Comes with a 5 year warranty. Tools and hose length for stairs equal those of a full size vacuum making it a formidable contender against full size uprights and canisters. I believe you are posting a picture of a previous and earlier Shark Navigator, not the latest. Much to the chagrin of other bagless uprights the Shark Navigator Pet has the claim: Never loses suction embedded into the vacuum. After all the industry dust up on this claim, I contend the washable cyclones and twice yearly filter cleaning on Shark Navigator [vice the dyson 4-6 times per year cleaning and others] make the difference in the usage of the product claim with Shark Navigator. The brush roll in size and form on the Shark Navigator is comparable to a decent size power head nozzle. Better easily IMHO than a DC24 which sells for $399. As good a brush roll perhaps even better than an ORECK. Shark Navigator is slightly stiffer. I don't believe CR has rated and reviewed yet. It should be interesting to see how well it fares.
Carmine D.
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Venson
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #113 May 3, 2010 9:06 am |
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The big daddy to the Navigator would be the Shark'Euro-Pro Infinity which qualifies as a full-sized upright with a wider cleaning swath. Yes indeed, the Navigator is a glorified stick vac but certainly packing more oomph than your average Hoover or Eureka stick. That in itself is not a new idea. I've already priorly owned a Sunbeam stick with an attachment kit and also a Hoover stick vac fitted with a full-size power nozzle. It is highly doubtful that Shark ever intended the Navigator as a full-size upright and it can safely be viewed as an equivalent to Sebo's Felix, Miele's 168 or 163 or the Emer sticks. All of these machines, bagged ort not, are basically stick vacs with "big" motors that people are prepared to accept as regular vacuums. They all also afford a less than conventional manner of attachment use than with a regular canister or upright but could easily get work done where they'd serve best.. Forgetting some of the prices, the advantage of all is that they are small yet may serve well as sole vacuum in small dwelling spaces. Recalling pricing, most are not at a level that is encouraging for the purpose of buying a secondary vacuum cleaner. The Navigator's advantage in theory would be efficient and easy to maintain cyclonics and its lesser price. By way of that it fits current demand. Lots of people now are looking for decent but less expensive vacuum. That's why so many folks went running after the Garry vac. Something good for a little money -- or so they believed. I think the Navigator has the potential to actually offer that. Though I have not owned the Navigator, I did own the EP621. I like it but it's main problem was a pleated filter. The Navigator could only be better save for my wondering about its sturdiness and Shark's ability to handle customer needs in good fashion. Venson |
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