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HeyVerne


Joined: Jan 20, 2010
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A possibility
Original Message   Jan 20, 2010 11:17 am
Hey guys I saw this pair online - what do you think?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A possibility
Reply #17   Jan 21, 2010 1:07 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You are only assuming the problem was Dyson's.  You did not see the condition of the vac.  If it was overfilled I would expect the cat hair to be trapped.  Most pet owners are not savy enough to know that the hair can clog.  Why not contact the shop and see what they say? I would suspect that most vac problems are user related as they are in most consumer goods. 


HS:

Probably a mix of both user and product related problems.  Consumers don't read manuals and follow directions correctly.  The more complicated/expensive the vacuum brand, the higher the repair and maintenance costs: i.e dyson repairs.  As Tom G and others stated, dysons really need to be demoed properly to customers. Dysons, as bagless vacuums, require meticulous care to dump the dirt bin faithfully and clean/wash the filters regularly.  In a way, just like Rainbows.

The simpler/easier the vacuums, the less expensive the repairs.  It would take 5-10 ORECK/TEMPO repairs to make the profit from one dyson repair.  Factor this into the SEVERUS question:  What vacuum[s] provide[s] the most bang for the buck?  Brands with less expensive repairs and/or user friendly repairs: i.e repairs that can be done by users like ORECK and HOOVER TEMPO rate higher grades for customers than dysons which rate lower grades.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A possibility
Reply #18   Jan 21, 2010 1:10 pm
HARDSELL wrote:

You corrected nothing.  I never said that inides sell Dyson.  I simply implied that all the other brands have so many problems that the indies make good profits keeping them running.  OTH, Dyson seems to be non profitable because repairs are too few to support an indie.

More would say that the throw away Tempo is not as good as Dyson.  Some also say that Oreck gives the least bang for the buck.  I told Severus that cleaning performance (to me) was the most bang for the buck in a vacuum.  I suppose I added another refurb t the Oreck list.



HS:

While it appears less likely to toss a $500 vacuum versus a $50, I have seen as many dysons in city dumps and trash as HOOVER Tempos.  The decision to toss is a personal/people one based on costs to repair not necessarily a product one.  Certainly from my own personal research, the brand most likely not to be claimed both before and/or after repair is dyson.  Hence, the huge and pervasive sale of dyson refurbs.  As you noted in the example, the vacuum store clerk said if the dyson repair exceeded $80, the customer would get called to get an okay to proceed.  The dyson repair if filters were needed easily would have cost $120.  $53 for the service and another $60 for filters for a total of $113 before tax.  The price of 2 new Tempo's and one rebuilt Oreck.

Carmine D. 

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: A possibility
Reply #19   Jan 21, 2010 5:44 pm
CarmineD wrote:

You corrected nothing.  I never said that inides sell Dyson.  I simply implied that all the other brands have so many problems that the indies make good profits keeping them running.  OTH, Dyson seems to be non profitable because repairs are too few to support an indie.

More would say that the throw away Tempo is not as good as Dyson.  Some also say that Oreck gives the least bang for the buck.  I told Severus that cleaning performance (to me) was the most bang for the buck in a vacuum.  I suppose I added another refurb t the Oreck list.



HS:

While it appears less likely to toss a $500 vacuum versus a $50, I have seen as many dysons in city dumps and trash as HOOVER Tempos.  The decision to toss is a personal/people one based on costs to repair not necessarily a product one.  Certainly from my own personal research, the brand most likely not to be claimed both before and/or after repair is dyson.  Hence, the huge and pervasive sale of dyson refurbs.  As you noted in the example, the vacuum store clerk said if the dyson repair exceeded $80, the customer would get called to get an okay to proceed.  The dyson repair if filters were needed easily would have cost $120.  $53 for the service and another $60 for filters for a total of $113 before tax.  The price of 2 new Tempo's and one rebuilt Oreck.

Carmine D. 



Spend  a few $ and continue using the Dyson.  The problem would not occur with Oreck because it would not pick up enough to clog.

Buy an Oreck to use electricity and live in filth.  Buy a Dyson and maintain a clean home.

Or buy a Tempo and Oreck to half ast do as much as a single Dyson. 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A possibility
Reply #20   Jan 21, 2010 7:44 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Spend  a few $ and continue using the Dyson.  The problem would not occur with Oreck because it would not pick up enough to clog.

Buy an Oreck to use electricity and live in filth.  Buy a Dyson and maintain a clean home.

Or buy a Tempo and Oreck to half ast do as much as a single Dyson. 


HS:

Using both a HOOVER TEMPO and ORECK XL Classic for rug/floor cleaning, I replace the paper bags in each about every two months.  When I do insert a new bag, I opine that the full paper bags contain about 5 times more dirt [conservatively speaking] than a full DC07 dirt bin.  I wouldn't expect 20 percent of the dirt I normally pick up with my $75 HOOVER TEMPO and/or $150 ORECK to clog any vacuum let alone one that retails for $400 plus like dyson.   I must admit however I might be wrong.  Maybe it can.  Perhaps that is the reason you sold your DC07 after 3 years and bought/currently use a HOOVER Platinum bagged Lightweight.  Having used both these models, HOOVER bagged Platinum light and DC07 pink, I would vote for the HOOVER too just as you.  The bag has a usable capacity comparable to my ORECK and slighly more than my HOOVER TEMPO.

Carmine D.

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