Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hey guys I saw this pair online - what do you think?

CarmineD wrote:
Hello Carmine - I think you're mistaken. It only show the 6 locations you've stated when you click on it, but if you click and drag down the box on the right-hand side, you should find it scrolls and reveals the ones I've given above. Let me know if you can confirm that and we'll put that part of the conspiracy theory to bed.

I agree that the Dyson statement that they're shut down production in China and are in process of moving to Malaysia sounds revealing. If I recall correctly, the Dyson Digital Motor and Airblade production took place in China. The Dyson Digital Motor V2 (the smaller version, used in the handheld vac / air multiplier) is shown to be produced on a largely automated production line. Not sure if this is in China or not, but it's modular design makes it look like it could be packed up and shipped anywhere at a moments notice - however I would suspect that this is already in Malaysia. In turn inventories for the DDM V1 and Airblade might be relatively stable, with the downturn in the construction market and it not being subject to seasonal demand, making a move for this line feasible. As ever, lots of speculation on what we don't really know in reality.

If Dyson truly did sell it's 3-month production of blade-less fans within one week at around 200 GBP a pop, then it certainly sounds like it well on it's way for RoI for that product. The sales margin must be crazy.

M00seUK wrote:

Sorry M00seUK.  Unless you have a Mighty Mouse and I have a weakling I only show 6 countries with all my clicking and dragging.   I hope I'm wrong and dyson is going great guns worldwide with sales.  But I have no verification of that at this time.  In fact, just the opposite.  Prior to the Web Site change on January 1, 2010, I read accounts on the internet of falling dyson sales, by non-dyson sources, in foreign countries that showed year over year declines that put at risk keeping the markets open.  Ireland is one country/market that comes to mind off the top of my head.  Tho you show it as still available.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Moose is correct Carmine.  Maybe your computer is like Oreck.  Poor performer.

Here is a likn for Belgium  http://www.dyson.be/    -  Czech Republic  http://www.cz.dyson.com/

There are many more as Moose stated.

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS:

Your link works as well as the dyson site drop down.  I'll stick with my ORECK, thank you. 

The irony of bad financial news, especially for companies use to having and reporting just good news for years, no matter how they couch it, twist it, spin it, and attempt to corroborate it in a good light, its still bad news.   

For bad news, here is one dyson user's account.  There's more too.  Carmine D.

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Hi M00seUK:

I thought the same after reading your and HS's posts.  Vatican 11 scrubbed Latin as the official language of the Mass in favor of the the vernacular.  While I prefer Latin myself, I must admit that the masses have rallied around the Masses in their native tongue.

However, with Sir James keeping news, especially bad, close to his vest, whether he used Latin or not, it would not matter.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:

Being an honest company Dyson does not edit out the negative reviews.  Oreck on the other hand seems to only allow positive reviews on their site.  We know that all users are not satisfied with Oreck.  I just did not bother to post on the Oreck site.

BTW, I ask again.  How do all the vac shops make a profit since most do not repair Dysons?  Do you think the vac shop referenced by the lady above made his living repairing Dysons?  I suspect all depend on all the other brand repairs to make their profits.

If you really want to add meat to your argument why not tell us the % of negatives vs positives on Dyson reviews.  They receive more stars on any site I have visited.  Keep trying.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

I've suggested before and again:  Jon Huntsman's book: "Winners never cheat."

As Katherine I from Mass notes in her comments about her dyson repair:  If dyson said on TV:  Never clogs, never loses suction, it must be true, right?  Sadly, wrong.  For Katherine and other dyson buyers who bought into the superior dyson pitch [some even say lies] over the product performance.

Carmine D. 

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

That is a soup question worthy of answer.  Correcting you:  Most indies do not sell new dysons.  Most do repair them and as you see from above the standard dyson fee charged at least by this shop is $53-$80 +, depending on whether one/more of the lifetime dyson filters need replacement .  Some would say the cost of a new HOOVER TEMPO with a ONE year unconditional warranty, which by chance Consumer Reports consistently rates over any/all dysons ranging in price from $400 up to $600. 

Gee!  I think I just answered the SEVERUS question to you:  What vacuum gives the most bang for the buck.  See what you can do even without a doctorate degree in Philosophy.  Provide meaningful information with answers to questions.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

HS:

That is a soup question worthy of answer.  Correcting you:  Most indies do not sell new dysons.  Most do repair them and as you see from above the standard dyson fee charged at least by this shop is $53-$80 +, depending on whether one/more of the lifetime dyson filters need replacement .  Some would say the cost of a new HOOVER TEMPO with a ONE year unconditional warranty, which by chance Consumer Reports consistently rates over any/all dysons ranging in price from $400 up to $600. 

Gee!  I think I just answered the SEVERUS question to you:  What vacuum gives the most bang for the buck.  See what you can do even without a doctorate degree in Philosophy.  Provide meaningful information with answers to questions.

Carmine D.

You corrected nothing.  I never said that inides sell Dyson.  I simply implied that all the other brands have so many problems that the indies make good profits keeping them running.  OTH, Dyson seems to be non profitable because repairs are too few to support an indie.

More would say that the throw away Tempo is not as good as Dyson.  Some also say that Oreck gives the least bang for the buck.  I told Severus that cleaning performance (to me) was the most bang for the buck in a vacuum.  I suppose I added another refurb t the Oreck list.