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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #57 Jan 3, 2010 6:36 am |
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I'm still not sold on cordless for household appliances, but it looks like a nice way to extend the cordless time. Perhaps Dyson will copy Shark and start adding a second battery to their handheld.
I agree. Cordless is still in its infancy in the vacuum industry. Like you I think the spare is a nice selling feature. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #59 Mar 14, 2010 11:32 am |
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Internet reviews of the Shark navigiator are piling up and appear very good. A recent TV ad pits a James Dyson look alike complete with hair and accent and his famed dyson upright to an American housewife and a lowly shark navigator. The latter wins out over the former in every category including price. Bed Bath and Beyond as well as other retailers, like Target, BEST BUY, Frys, etc all carry and sell the Shark Navigator and their customers give it glowing reviews. Bagless competition is fierce presently especially with pricing. Carmine D.
Thanks Carmine. I'm glad to learn that good AND affordable competition is out there and, even better, buyers are speaking well of it.
Best, Venson
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #60 Mar 14, 2010 2:15 pm |
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Thanks Carmine. I'm glad to learn that good AND affordable competition is out there and, even better, buyers are speaking well of it. Best, Venson Hello Venson:
If I were still in the vacuum business, I'd carry and sell the Shark Navigator specifically for customers solely interested in a bagless upright. It meets/beats the TOL big box store bagless brand. Even if I didn't make any money on the Shark-Navigator sales, I'd keep bagless vacuum customer clientele. Carmine D.
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Lucky1
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #61 Mar 15, 2010 4:34 pm |
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Hello Venson: If I were still in the vacuum business, I'd carry and sell the Shark Navigator specifically for customers solely interested in a bagless upright. It meets/beats the TOL big box store bagless brand. Even if I didn't make any money on the Shark-Navigator sales, I'd keep bagless vacuum customer clientele. Carmine D. Shark makes the worst products in the Vacuum business. I'd most certainly carry Dyson over ANYTHING shark.
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Venson
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #62 Mar 15, 2010 4:55 pm |
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Shark makes the worst products in the Vacuum business. I'd most certainly carry Dyson over ANYTHING shark. What's happening with the Shark Infinity uprights? With their introduction, I was thinking Shark might be trying to clean up its act. You can only go for so long hawking disposables despite a cheap price. Shoppers, even the low-end ones, have better expectations and don't forget brand names when they feel they've been duped. The company can't be unaware of its bad rep in past and though I don't have great expectations of its execs, I'd think it must know, despite the nicer pricing, that people do remember.
The past Euro-Pro/Shark lightweight models I've owned all got chucked due to short-lived filters which were expensive to replace. I haven't really used one long term but think since these models new are relying on cyclonics and not the pleatyed filters as a mainstay as earlier models did, I'd suspect they've a better chance. Venson
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #63 Mar 15, 2010 5:00 pm |
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Shark makes the worst products in the Vacuum business. I'd most certainly carry Dyson over ANYTHING shark. What's happening with the Shark Infinity uprights? With their introduction, I was thinking Shark might be trying to clean up its act. You can only go for so long hawking disposables despite a cheap price. Shoppers, even the low-end ones, have better expectations and don't forget brand names when they feel they've been duped. The company can't be unaware of its bad rep in past and though I don't have great expectations of its execs, I'd think it must know, despite the nicer pricing, that people do remember. The past Euro-Pro/Shark lightweight models I've owned all got chucked due to short-lived filters which were expensive to replace. I haven't really used one long term but think since these models new are relying on cyclonics and not the pleatyed filters as a mainstay as earlier models did, I'd suspect they've a better chance. Venson If dyson offered a bagless upright with the same features and warranty [5 years] as the Shark Navigator for $150-$200, I'd carry and sell too for bagless vacuum customers. Unfortunately, dyson is and always has been too expensive for most vacuum buyers who for the same dyson prices have much better options than dyson offerings at independent vacuum cleaner stores. Carmine D.
This message was modified Mar 15, 2010 by CarmineD
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CarmineD
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #66 Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm |
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Howdy all, Just got back from browsing Costco. The Shark's Navigator is there and priced at $150 which is just 5 bucks more than the store is asking for the rechargeable Hoover Platinum stick vac. The Oreck combo -- upright and its portable vac -- is marked for $250. The Dyson DC14, which hasn't been on the shelves for a while, is back and tagged at $400. Venson Hello venson:
If the $400 pricetag doesn't come down to $300, these old and discontinued DC14 models will merely collect dust and never sell. In large part, the reason these dyson dinosaurs are still around new and for sale. Carmine D.
This message was modified Mar 16, 2010 by CarmineD
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