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DysonInventsBig
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #38 Jan 4, 2010 7:12 am |
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Dib-ster: PROCARE's post about Newcombe's 1922 bagless vacuum invention/patent rings true. Sir James Dyson, an inventor extraordinaire according to you, copied a 1922 bagless vacuum patent/invention. Then, Sir James in his marketing pitch supposedly tests 5174 bagless prototypes, never once crediting Newcombe's patent, before finally perfecting the bagless upright. Sir James Dyson takes all the credit. Even claims all the knock offs are stealing from him. Slick marketing reinventing and/or reinnovating truth. Carmine D. Carmine, You’re an idiot, but you’re our idiot. :) The Newcombe patent is a salad spinner (for fine dust), and not a ‘cyclonic separator.’ Dyson Invents Big P.S. I only spoon fed you (the group) the Newcombe patent because I was bored. And you did not fail me... you provided a good laugh.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #39 Jan 4, 2010 9:16 am |
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Carmine, The interesting thing about Rainbow owners is that they tend to be extremely loyal. I'm always amazed when I read the overwhelming number of positive reviews by Rainbow owners. Sure there are those who hate them, but most like the water filtration idea. I heard an administrative assistant say that she bought one when she was first married - and paid nearly $3000 with interest payments. It broke down after 7 or so years. Yet, she still would like another one. Even though it's a bit of a pain in the butt to use, she felt like she was missing something without it. I was shocked that with her limited resources, she and her husband would even consider buying a Rainbow. For whatever reason, there seems to be an emotional attachment to these vacuums.
Hello SEVERUS:
I have a dear friend who bought a new Rainbow when he first got married. He chides that his wife left him after 7 years but the Rainbow is still going strong after 30. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #40 Jan 4, 2010 9:20 am |
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Carmine, You’re an idiot, but you’re our idiot. :) The Newcombe patent is a salad spinner (for fine dust), and not a ‘cyclonic separator.’ Dyson Invents Big P.S. I only spoon fed you (the group) the Newcombe patent because I was bored. And you did not fail me... you provided a good laugh. Dib-ster:
Sir James copied [stole] Kenneth J's patent for the ball facilitator and used it 13 years later on his vacuums calling it a dyson original too. Seems like a pattern with your fave inventor extraordinaire. BTW, being called an idiot in your eyes is the highest compliment I can receive from you. I'm not laughing when I say it. Carmine D.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #42 Jan 4, 2010 7:48 pm |
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Dib-ster: PROCARE's post about Newcombe's 1922 bagless vacuum invention/patent rings true. Sir James Dyson, an inventor extraordinaire according to you, copied a 1922 bagless vacuum patent/invention. Then, Sir James in his marketing pitch supposedly tests 5174 bagless prototypes, never once crediting Newcombe's patent, before finally perfecting the bagless upright. Sir James Dyson takes all the credit. Even claims all the knock offs are stealing from him. Slick marketing reinventing and/or reinnovating truth. Carmine D. "Then I saw on top of a lumberyard this giant cyclone, and that gave me the idea to develop the cyclones—one of only a few filtration devices that don't have cloggable membranes. Even electrostatic filters can theoretically clog, but they don't even work in this application yet. The cyclone was on top of a factory, 30 ft. high, collecting sawdust all day long and losing suction." James Dyson from Popular Mechanics interview: http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4236719.html Based on his comments, Rainbow actually did everything James wanted in a vacuum. If James had had a Rainbow, he might have never bothered to go into the vacuum business.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #43 Jan 5, 2010 2:10 am |
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DIB, Centrifugal force and Cylonic actions work together to seperate dust and dirt. All vacuums use cyclonic action and centrifugal force. The Newcombe and Rexair it's predecessor use that seperator to to get cleaner air thru it's motor. The main thing that hurt Rexair before it started using water in the cleaner was the real fine dust like soot would go right back into the air ala Three Stooges and other comedians used in the mid 30's on. I am no Idiot like you that like to call people names. I have been nice to you and you think you are the only one here that knows anything. When I brought out Newcombe it was part of Rainbow (Rexair) history. Your thoughts about it being a salad spinner is proving you to be the Idiot not Carmine or anyone else on this thread. No one cut down Dyson as an Innovator but showed that there was someone there before him. Root was the inventor on the cyclonic end and Dyson put it to use in vacuum cleaners. An innovation not invention. "Then I saw on top of a lumberyard this giant cyclone, and that gave me the idea to develop the cyclones—one of only a few filtration devices that don't have cloggable membranes. Even electrostatic filters can theoretically clog, but they don't even work in this application yet. The cyclone was on top of a factory, 30 ft. high, collecting sawdust all day long and losing suction."
James Dyson from Popular Mechanics interview: http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4236719.html
Based on his comments, Rainbow actually did everything James wanted in a vacuum. If James had had a Rainbow, he might have never bothered to go into the vacuum business. HAPPY NEW YEAR PROCARE and SEVERUS:
Dib-ster's monotonous diatribes here over how great dyson art and how tired and weary are all others has become B-O-R-I-N-G. As a dyson shill, with a poor cover, Dib-ster typically resorts to name calling [like idiot] and/or using the laugh/joke cards as defenses of last resort when faced with incontrovertible facts/truths. Dib-ster claims he enjoys defending his words only when he's right. In reality, if he were right and rarely is that the case, no defense is needed. Absent facts/truth, no defense is sufficient. I would have thought with a new year would bring a new alias/cover for Dib-ster. Even better, a new dyson spokes person. But, alas, not yet. Slim-pickins for Sir James. Perhaps the reason that starting in 2010 dyson no longer sells in 31 global markets but just 5. Malaysia is not one of them. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #45 Jan 5, 2010 2:32 am |
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So if i put 1 qt of water in my dyson's bin would i be inventing something?
This would work to keep the fine dust level down and out of the pre motor filter.
Can i have the R@D money now,A stack of hundreds would be fine.
Thanks
MOLE HAPPY NEW YEAR MOLE:
As my 5 year old grand daughter would ask: Is that real money or fake? Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #46 Jan 5, 2010 6:41 am |
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HAPPY NEW YEAR PROCARE and SEVERUS: Dib-ster's monotonous diatribes here over how great dyson art and how tired and weary are all others has become B-O-R-I-N-G. As a dyson shill, with a poor cover, Dib-ster typically resorts to name calling [like idiot] and/or using the laugh/joke cards as defenses of last resort when faced with incontrovertible facts/truths. Dib-ster claims he enjoys defending his words only when he's right. In reality, if he were right and rarely is that the case, no defense is needed. Absent facts/truth, no defense is sufficient. I would have thought with a new year would bring a new alias/cover for Dib-ster. Even better, a new dyson spokes person. But, alas, not yet. Slim-pickins for Sir James. Perhaps the reason that starting in 2010 dyson no longer sells in 31 global markets but just 5. Malaysia is not one of them. Carmine D. Carmine, By definition you behave like an idiot. You also drip with Dyson-envy, and lie big-time. You rushed out and declared Dyson copied Newcombe’s salad spinner without reading the Newcombe patent and after I spoon fed it to you. Do you think I would help out all the lying vacuum dealer con men buy putting up a patent that even resembles the Dyson Dual Cyclone or other Dyson patents? You’re an idiot (by definition). Dyson Invents Big Idiot - Wikipedia: An idiot, dolt, or dullard is... someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. More humorous synonyms of the term include addlehead, blockhead, bonehead, deadhead, dimwit, dodo, dope, dummy, dunderhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numbskull, stupidhead, thickhead, and twit, among many others.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #47 Jan 5, 2010 7:34 am |
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Carmine,
By definition you behave like an idiot. You also drip with Dyson-envy, and lie big-time. You rushed out and declared Dyson copied Newcombe’s salad spinner without reading the Newcombe patent and after I spoon fed it to you.
Do you think I would help out all the lying vacuum dealer con men buy putting up a patent that even resembles the Dyson Dual Cyclone or other Dyson patents? You’re an idiot (by definition).
Dyson Invents Big
Idiot - Wikipedia: An idiot, dolt, or dullard is... someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. More humorous synonyms of the term include addlehead, blockhead, bonehead, deadhead, dimwit, dodo, dope, dummy, dunderhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numbskull, stupidhead, thickhead, and twit, among many others. Dib-ster:
Whether I am an idiot or not in your estimation is irrelevant to the facts and truth posted on this thread by PROCARE, SEVERUS, and MOLE about past vacuum inventions. Name calling is a childish diversion the first time used. Repeating it focuses readers' attention on the name caller, who quickly gets judged as childish. Carmine D.
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