Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Shark is going after the Dyson Ball pretty hard with the Navigator product.  It claims no loss of suction and claims its just as easy to maneuver as the Dyson Ball.  After acknowledging Dyson as the first to offer no loss of suction, they go for the throat.  They do a direct comparison to a Dyson Ball and state that they are equal in all ways (easy to maneuver, no loss of suction, 5 year warranty) but price.  For less than $200 you can get a Shark Navigator with a free steam cleaner thrown in to boot. 

Severus wrote:

I like that moniker.  Sharks survive by swallowing up the least of their competition in the wild.    You're on to something BIG.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

It would only be a sequel.  Dyson swallowed Hoover in the original show.  Heck, Dyson even has Oreck hiding on the shelves of the BB stores.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

You still have ORECK and HOOVER stuck in your craw and can't see straight.  Get over it and move on.  Tho ORECK is a neighbor of yours. 

Dyson's DC25 ball is the prey here AND the predator if you can imagine is Shark's Navigator.  Unheard of.  Simply amazing to quote ORECK.  Big bad dyson bested by SHARK.  Shades of tiny young helpless David and the behemoth armor cladded Goliath.  The former killed the latter with a pebble.  Too funny.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
You should do the same with DYSON and move on.  

Hardsell,

The interesting thing about the Shark ad is that they claim to be equal to the Dyson Ball in everything but price.  However, they compare themselves to the  the Hoover Windtunnel bagless.   Technically, they compare themselves to a Hoover Windtunnel bagless with 4 cups of flour crammed in the pleated filter.  They make a point to empty the canister very gently to ensure that they do not perturb the flour caked onto the filter. 

Personally, I would have liked to see them go head to head against the Dysons in the tests, but the Hoover is higher rated in the Consumer Reports ratings. 

The Bissell Dyson clone - the Healthy Home would is another good choice for consumers who want a no loss of suction bagless that cleans better than the Dyson.   While the Dyson may offer the original non water based no loss of suction filtration system,  most of the clones outperform the corresponding Dysons on carpeting according to Consumer Reports.  Given the state of the economy, many consumers don't mind a knockoff that is equivalent to the Dyson in no loss of suction, particularly given the huge discounts.   In my humble opinion, Dyson has a tendency to overengineer simple things to "justify" the high cost of his vacuums.  The complexity isn't always a plus.  Dyson makes a good bagless vacuum, but there's no justification for the huge price differential. 

The Shark Navigator is made in China. Bissell Healthy Home is made in China too. Dyson is made in Maylasia.

HARDSELL wrote:

As SEVERUS and others point out all vacuum makers have and overtaken dyson in the process.

You and dyson are still stuck in neutral.  Even tho you have purchased 2 of the latest HOOVER products and have praised at least one, which Consumer Reports rates 2 overall in upright class, and recommended to others here.  In my book, you've made the choice of HOOVER over dyson but still can't accept it as the better product over dyson.  Stuck in your craw. 

Carmine D.

Severus wrote:

Agree with your post SEVERUS.  May I add to your point [that I highlighted]:  Many would say it is a mark of wisdom [perhaps even genius] to keep it so simple and effective that anyone can use it. 

Carmine D.

One of the pluses I noted of the Shark Infinity bagless over dyson's bagless is the ability to remove the 18 cyclones and wash and dry and reinstall.  Voila, brand new again.  This is a "no-no" for all dyson cyclones, old and new.  Wonder if the Shark Navigator cyclones are the same as the Infinity.  

Carmine D

KirbyUltimateG wrote:

KirbyUltimateG:

Just curious, are you saying that Dyson's labor costs in Malaysia justify the higher cost?   Or are you just pointing this out as a difference between the Dysons and the clones? 

I'm not sure, but I think the Navigator also has a shorter hose for cleaning with tools.   It looks easier to use than the Dyson's hose, but I don't think it can stretch a flight of stairs.  For the many customers with single level homes, this would seem to be another plus.