Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Shark is going after the Dyson Ball pretty hard with the Navigator product.  It claims no loss of suction and claims its just as easy to maneuver as the Dyson Ball.  After acknowledging Dyson as the first to offer no loss of suction, they go for the throat.  They do a direct comparison to a Dyson Ball and state that they are equal in all ways (easy to maneuver, no loss of suction, 5 year warranty) but price.  For less than $200 you can get a Shark Navigator with a free steam cleaner thrown in to boot. 

Severus wrote:

Agree SEVERUS.  If I didn't know better, I'd say ORECK is looking to down size its network of stores.  Things change.  Not always for the better.

Carmine D.

Severus wrote:

And pay the higher UK taxes imposed recently.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Although someone like Dyson who regularly file new patents would stand to benefit in the near term, with recently announced R&D tax incentives in the UK.

M00seUK wrote:

The government giveth.......and the government taketh away...........

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

Why did the price drop so much?  Are the bags particularly small or something?  I take it that you are not a fan of canisters.   

I wonder if the Miele Art, suction only uprights, could be had at a decent price.  Have they been discontinued?  

Severus wrote:

SEVERUS:

You're right.  I am not a cann and tank person.  More upright centered. 

The EUR/LUX Intensity never sold well despite it's good rug performance and desirable features.  No doubt in large part due to the appearance which never appealed to most vacuum customers.  I suspect this model is discontinued and may even be replaced by another lightweight model from EUR/LUX very soon.  Bag is very small.  Interesting that you compare/mention along with the MIELE Art series.  I do too especially in appearance.  The straight suction MIELE Art series ups are no longer sold on the MIELE Web Site.  IMHO, made and sold to yuppies during the dot.com/high tech boom to buyers with lots of disposable income.  Tho, Consumer Reports rated the MIELE Art series decently on rugs. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Sadly I have watched family owned businesses falter when the younger generation takes the throne.

The old work ethics still prevail over modern business ideas.  Today's generation wants the income with less work.

They do not have the dedication of those such as yourself.

Lucky1 wrote:

Lucky, can't answer your question honestly.  I do understand the franchise owners balking.

I considered the source of the information (salesman wanting to upgrade a sale to a two speed).  Other Oreck salesmen have said single speed is OK.

Look back and see how many opinions I and others have been given about excellent Oreck performance.  All the nagatives that I have posted about my first Oreck still exist.  Regardless of CR or 55 year veterans praise I find the Oreck to be inferior to any vacuum that I have owned.

HARDSELL wrote:

Obviously HS if you are comparing a strictly upright mode lightweight to full size vacuums with attachments then you are going to be disappointed.  I see you like the HOOVER Platinum lightweight much better than ORECK.  Tho you despise and impughn Consumer Reports vacuum ratings, CR gave it number 2 overall in the upright class.  And you seem to agree so far.  I personally and professionally think CR was generous in the rating/ranking and rate/rank both ORECK and Platinum lightweight comparable overall.  But each stronger than the other in different areas.

Carmine D.