Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I test drove the new Mieles today.

They are very lightweight, but have a 7yr warranty on the plastic housing as well as the Vortex motor. The come with the 217 power nozzle. No upgrade to the 236, you simply buy it in addition if you want it. The telescoping wand is a bit thicker, I presume to accomodate the thicker handle grip. Small tools mount at the machine end of the hose, and it has a pigtail connect. 100% made in Germany, The 514, the Cat and Dog and the 251 are being retired, as I presume the Natural is since it is the same body style as the 251. Quiet, powerful, manueverable, lightweight. With HEPA filter and twister neck floor brush $599.00 and bright red!  Who could ask for anything more?  The Panasonic looking uprights are being retired also. Miele will be streamlined to 5 body styles, S7, S5, S4, S3, and the Universal stick uprights, unless they add something else.

I like it very much. All the basic power and solid engineering with no fancy electronics. It is nimble, as one would expect. The power is so strong it must be dialed back on anything but the thickest carpet, or the nozzle is simply too tiring to push.  A definite winner, and at a very reasonable cost for the quality and durabilty

Hello turtle1:

Panosonic made the MIELE uprights for many years to accomodate MIELE customers who wanted uprights and not canns.

Carmine D.

I think the cord is the same length as the S4 and S5. The S2 provides an alternative for people who would stretch their
budget another hundred or so, but would not go another 300 or more to buy a Miele. The chili red one does come with
a hepa filter as standard.

Also, you can get a Miele S2 Delphi model for $499 - comes with a power nozzle (no floor brush or HEPA as standard)... Still a great price point. OR,  you can now even get the basic S2 model with standard floor tool for $299.
Smart move by Miele to release these...

CarmineD wrote:
Panasonic made their own Powerhouse uprights and Miele paid Panasonic for the design. The uprights were only sold in the U.S The UK still gets the basic uprights seen here:

http://media.panasonic.eu/images/mc-e3002wp47-im04WebA1001001A07L20B12228A12346.jpg

I heard today that Miele is going to discontinue the S4 series in favor of the S2, which weigh the same, but offer the option of a P/N.  Anyone know anything about this?

Trebor wrote:
Don't have any info but IMHO the S4 is a much better constructed machine with the added addition of a sealed system. Actually the 200 series seems to be a better made machine but both the S4 vand the 200 lack the versatility that S2 offers. Makes the need for a little extra thought when recommending which vacuum for a customer

Trebor wrote:
My Titans did not come with the Twister Floor Brush...

Trebor wrote:
Hi Trebor,

The following link is to the Miele product list for canisters sold stateside. It makes note of new models and those that have been retired.

http://miele.com/products/models.asp?nav=30&snav=24&tnav=26&oT=27&cat=1&subcat=1&menu_id=5

Venson

RAD1 wrote:

Hello RAD1:

Agree.  MIELE offers a nice venue of compact, midsize and full size canns from standard to deluxe.  MIELE wants to dominate the vacuum market for canns and it's moving swiftly in that direction to do so.  IMMER BESSER.

Carmine D.

Well I don't know about the U.S but certainly in the U.K the S2 series replaces the old S380/S381 that is sold at certain department stores and isn't a direct replacement for the S4; both models lack the integral tool storer built into the body. The S4000 range is still relatively new and Miele are keen to keep it in their range as its the compact style/small shape compared to the S2 that uses the bigger bag from the S5. The S2 has a 5.5 metre cable whereas the S5 has 6.5 metres - both now come with HEPA filters although when I trialled the S2 at the time it came with the standard Super Air clean filter. The S2 also comes with the Flexhose/hose extender which is a great idea (an additional small stretch hose that compacts up into a little holder) but adds 500 g to the overall weight. Miele are really trying to upgrade their systems but I still feel that Sebo's K series cylinder hoses and pipes are much lighter as a comparison.

Also the prices of the Miele HEPA and Active Air Clean filters here are minimal, so in theory you can still buy the old S380 and upgrade it to the same standard filter. Only downside is the smaller bag that is also used in the S4. I bought an S380/381 recently simply because of the tool storer door as the tool clip on the tubes of my S4 means tools do fly off sometimes and it can be annoying!