Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Seen the new VAX line of bagless yet? better quality and performance?...at a far lower price.

Some say its stolen Dyson tech...some say its VAX xposing Dyson as a rip off [over priced] over hyped vacuum......that dyson is slipping[sinking brand]...that a dyson can be had at a fraction of the cost and with a warranty thats actually useable.......solved all the dyson flaws.....without the dyson shaft at the register. That VAX has zeroed in on dyson and plans to come at him head on.  If this is true ..then some drastic changes are due at dyson ....and another dyson [im a victim] lawsuit will come.......as always.

turtle1

CarmineD wrote:

Does anyone really care?

Only if you let 300 cups of coffee spill over evrywhere. 

Carmine D.

Mm interesting reviews appearing on Amazon.co.uk - it seems that not even the Mach 7 on average can get a five full star rating and that's from (what I've read up on just now) consumers who have either had Dyson or considered Vax before Dyson.

CarmineD wrote:
When your rip all-things-Dyosn...  would this be self-sacrificing or self-serving?

DIB 

CarmineD wrote: HARDSELL wrote:
HS, you’ve got me laughing.  I don't read them all, but these last few "exchanges" are pretty funny.

DIB:

Sir James has made a career, at least up to now, out of reinventing existing technology, not enhancing it, and charging a huge premium for it.  If you proclaim this as technologically innovative you have as much comical chutzpah as Sir James by declaring Air Multiplier fans as bladeless and charging $300.  Such overstated claims are self-serving because they are untrue.  If the self-server impugns others for disclosing the untruth, then he/she/it is the perpetrator of a lie [albeit hiding under the disguise of righteousness].  That is, indeed, no laughing matter.  Except perhaps to the evil one. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I think that by blade-less they mean that it's not at the fan opening as is the most case with most fans.   As a student of physics, surely you enjoy seeing demonstrations of fluid mechanics principles.   This is the kind of silly thing that can spark interest in science by children who wonder where the fan blades are. 

 While it's not practical enough to be sold at a vacuum store, once can appreciate invention for the sake of invention.  I certainly agree with you that  $300 is a ridiculous price for a fan.  However, put the application in a military or medical setting, and perhaps there's something there.  The market will decide if there's an application for this product. 

Severus wrote:

Hello Severus:

Agree.  In fact Roomba did this with its robotics.  For 10 years it made robotic bomb detectors and detonators for the military before applying the same principles to household robotic vacuums.  When it did, Roomba sold over 500,000 robotic vacuums in just 6 months of launch in October 2002.   

Wonder what happened to the all the buzz about the dyson robotic that was floated here by the dyson  "insiders" in the know.  M00seUK had it right in 2004 when he said it was probably too late for dyson to enter this market.  Roomba had the lock on it from the get go.  In business it's not just about the product and price.  It's about market timing.  Dyson was too late.

Carmine D.

Severus wrote:

Ah yes, the Venturi effect.