Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I received this "teaser email today: http://links.mkt2388.com/ctt?kn=1&m=2735925&r=MTgwOTM1MTgzMTcS1&b=0&j=NzgxMTAyODMS1&mt=1&rt=0
Anyone know what's up with this??

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Acerone wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was Oreck that killed the Oreck Store. Since the new INVESTORS in Oreck the have been selling product cheaply in BOX STORES, on QVC and the Oreck Company INTERNET WEB SITE does nothing for the franchisee. Years ago maybe the "Bag Sales" were enough to carry a small shop but with rents and lower margins it's no longer possible. Taking away vacuum sales and making dealers honor warranties for virtually nothing will be the undoing of Oreck. I wouldn't be surprised if the company tried to buy the stores in larger markets once they have forced their indies out.

Lucky1 wrote:

I think that you are right on Lucky.  Also,  they are beginning to show signs of "desperate for business".

They only have stores in major metropolitan areas.  WM, Kmart, BB, HH Greg and many other big box stores are so much more convenient.  Who is going to buy a vac and have to drive 50, 100 or more miles to take it back to the franchised store for service which is pretty regular.

Great parody!
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Hello Lucky1

I would never ever pay ORECK $300,000 for a franchise.  I'd take the money and buy a building.  Why be at the mercy of any brand and pay them for it.  It doesn't make sense.  If I want to be my own boss [and I that's largely the reason I went in the business], why would I ever buy a brand's franchise?  I never signed a business contract with any vacuum brand maker in 42 years.  I was an authorized sales and service dealer for 4 major vacuum brands.  We did business based on an handshake, or we didn't do business.  My store, my rules.  If they didn't agree, I thanked them, and  I showed them the door.

Carmine D.

Not realy a parody as much as honesty.  Why buy a $300 10 inch fan, and/or a $330 12 inch fan when a $10 one will do just fine.  dyson has made some real foibles on the invention front.  But this has to be right up there with the dc11.  I can't imagine a single solitary fan sold at this price.  Not now.  Not ever.  Dyson will be gifting them with the purchase of vacuums after they give away all the handhelds.

Carmine D.

Cant think of a solitary fan that would be more expensive than Dyson? What about ceiling fans? In the UK the prices start at £40 and go all the way to £400. Id be interested to see what kind of power the Dyson fan has in terms of air speed/thrust, and secondly even though they don't show it, what level of dust the Dyson incurs when it is used? With bladeless technology that the eye can't see, standard fans often get dusty and end up churning the dust off the impellers back into the room. Surely those with health allergies would appreciate something like the Dyson fan, but again I'm speculating as I'm not too sure what would happen if dust builds up / or if Dyson intends to fit a filter.

I vaguely remember an article from possibly Business week in which someone tested a Dyson DC07, a Eureka Whirlwind dual cyclonic, and a couple of other vacuums.  The author commented that when he followed the Eureka with the Dyson, that there was no noticeable dirt picked up by the Dyson.  However, when he followed the Dyson by the Eureka, the Eureka continued to pick up a lot of dirt.  I suspect it had to do with the brush roll on the Dyson.  The Dyson certainly has comparable suction and arguably a better dirt containment system; however, it had a lousy brush roll.   Dyson has a tendency to over engineer some components of his vacuums rather than using industry tried and true designs, and sometimes gets unintended consequences. 

I'm sure there will be useful applications of this fan.  For example, they may be able to incorporate these fans into the seats on bidets.  Perhaps they will create a direct air vacuum which doesn't have the problem of the debris going through the fan?   Perhaps Kirby's and Orecks will have these fans to prevent fan damage some day?  I'm still hoping for the bladeless windmill design...

procare wrote:

vacmanuk wrote:
Hi vacmanuk,

Ceiling fans here price more according to style. My local Home Depot carries them at varying prices as low $70 and over the $200 mark. This summer I searched for a window-mounted 20" or 22" whole house fan and the one brand and model I liked priced lowest at $188. Depending on where you looked, the price for the same thing rose as high as $400. I'll be curious to learn how they price off-season as it would seem that the first line of business is to gouge -- pardon me, I meant to say sell at what the market will bear.

Venson

CarmineD wrote:

When I first saw and commented on the wimpy dyson brush roll in a DC07 in April 2002, the pro-dyson campers raved about the high 270 air watts.  They argued the unbeaten suction power would make up the difference.  Yeah, right.  They didn't know and understand their vacuum operations.  After 9 years in the US vacuum market and for as many years as Consumer Reports telling us so, most all here, even the hard core card carrying dysoners, agree that dyson's wimpy brush bar and clutch in DC07 and 14's are a farce on US rugs and carpets.  The documented evidence is overwhelming.  SEVERUS posted some of it here as a follow up to the thread question: What has dyson invented now? Dyson finally discontinued both clutch models albeit after too many years of delay.  The refurbs will probably never go away.

Dyson's legacy to the bagless/vacuum industry will most notably be it allowed its competition to outdo it on every turn.  Air watts.  Cyclones.  Shrouds.  Dirt bin capacities.  Filters.   Even today's $100-$200 cyclonic bagless vacuums have shroud filters/screens to keep the fibrous materials from 'agglomerating'  in and clogging the cyclones.  Dyson still hasn't figured it out yet either?  Is it denial?  Maybe its farting around with $300 10 inch fans? Or does it takes awhile for its 500 engineers to reach a consensus?  Just like it did with the early dyson brush rolls and clutches.

Carmine D.