Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I received this "teaser email today: http://links.mkt2388.com/ctt?kn=1&m=2735925&r=MTgwOTM1MTgzMTcS1&b=0&j=NzgxMTAyODMS1&mt=1&rt=0
Anyone know what's up with this??

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Hello Procare:

Your post about the Lux and letting dyson go last and getting hardly anything out coincides with Severus' post.  A HOOVER up would pull more out going last than a dyson would pull out going last.  Of course, as Severus says if you stay at it long enough with a dyson EVENTUALLY a DC14 would get some more out.  Perhaps 14/15 passes.  Maybe 27/28 passes back and forth.  Maybe that's how dyson picks model numbers.  But dyson's especially the models discontinued now are equipped with wimpy brush rolls [I mean bars].  James must have had a technological innovatively lazy hour when it came to the old style dyson brush bars.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

As you know I had a DC07 and a Hoover Fusion at thr same time.  The Dyson beat it every time.  The dirt was weighed on extremely accurate pharmacy scales.

The Orecks are embarrased to put a number on all but the XL21.  It has to be run 21 times a week to get a bare minimum of dirt out of carpets.  The others have to be used so many times they chose to elkiminate the number.  XL = Xtremely Long time to vacuum.

CarmineD wrote:
A not so savy poster also once told Hoover that Dyson would never sell.  Look what it cost him.

Acerone wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was Oreck that killed the Oreck Store. Since the new INVESTORS in Oreck the have been selling product cheaply in BOX STORES, on QVC and the Oreck Company INTERNET WEB SITE does nothing for the franchisee. Years ago maybe the "Bag Sales" were enough to carry a small shop but with rents and lower margins it's no longer possible. Taking away vacuum sales and making dealers honor warranties for virtually nothing will be the undoing of Oreck. I wouldn't be surprised if the company tried to buy the stores in larger markets once they have forced their indies out.

Lucky1 wrote:

I think that you are right on Lucky.  Also,  they are beginning to show signs of "desperate for business".

They only have stores in major metropolitan areas.  WM, Kmart, BB, HH Greg and many other big box stores are so much more convenient.  Who is going to buy a vac and have to drive 50, 100 or more miles to take it back to the franchised store for service which is pretty regular.

Great parody!
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Hello Lucky1

I would never ever pay ORECK $300,000 for a franchise.  I'd take the money and buy a building.  Why be at the mercy of any brand and pay them for it.  It doesn't make sense.  If I want to be my own boss [and I that's largely the reason I went in the business], why would I ever buy a brand's franchise?  I never signed a business contract with any vacuum brand maker in 42 years.  I was an authorized sales and service dealer for 4 major vacuum brands.  We did business based on an handshake, or we didn't do business.  My store, my rules.  If they didn't agree, I thanked them, and  I showed them the door.

Carmine D.

Not realy a parody as much as honesty.  Why buy a $300 10 inch fan, and/or a $330 12 inch fan when a $10 one will do just fine.  dyson has made some real foibles on the invention front.  But this has to be right up there with the dc11.  I can't imagine a single solitary fan sold at this price.  Not now.  Not ever.  Dyson will be gifting them with the purchase of vacuums after they give away all the handhelds.

Carmine D.

Cant think of a solitary fan that would be more expensive than Dyson? What about ceiling fans? In the UK the prices start at £40 and go all the way to £400. Id be interested to see what kind of power the Dyson fan has in terms of air speed/thrust, and secondly even though they don't show it, what level of dust the Dyson incurs when it is used? With bladeless technology that the eye can't see, standard fans often get dusty and end up churning the dust off the impellers back into the room. Surely those with health allergies would appreciate something like the Dyson fan, but again I'm speculating as I'm not too sure what would happen if dust builds up / or if Dyson intends to fit a filter.

I vaguely remember an article from possibly Business week in which someone tested a Dyson DC07, a Eureka Whirlwind dual cyclonic, and a couple of other vacuums.  The author commented that when he followed the Eureka with the Dyson, that there was no noticeable dirt picked up by the Dyson.  However, when he followed the Dyson by the Eureka, the Eureka continued to pick up a lot of dirt.  I suspect it had to do with the brush roll on the Dyson.  The Dyson certainly has comparable suction and arguably a better dirt containment system; however, it had a lousy brush roll.   Dyson has a tendency to over engineer some components of his vacuums rather than using industry tried and true designs, and sometimes gets unintended consequences. 

I'm sure there will be useful applications of this fan.  For example, they may be able to incorporate these fans into the seats on bidets.  Perhaps they will create a direct air vacuum which doesn't have the problem of the debris going through the fan?   Perhaps Kirby's and Orecks will have these fans to prevent fan damage some day?  I'm still hoping for the bladeless windmill design...

procare wrote: