"What has dyson invented now?" Original Message Oct 11, 2009 11:23 pm
I received this "teaser email today: http://links.mkt2388.com/ctt?kn=1&m=2735925&r=MTgwOTM1MTgzMTcS1&b=0&j=NzgxMTAyODMS1&mt=1&rt=0 Anyone know what's up with this??
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #219 Dec 10, 2009 1:30 pm
Dib-ster:
According to your dyson facts and figures, the USA represents two thirds of the new dyson vacuum sales market. Dyson's DC11 gets pulled from two-thirds of its new sales market in less than 9 months, never to be seen ever again. If that is your definition of "successful" product/sales, dyson needs a better spokesperson here because you are selling fish oil to beefeaters.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #220 Dec 10, 2009 2:40 pm
advertised a new previously unthought-of dish, developed a huge following for this dish, then had some suits from Pepsi Co. eat at your place, take take-out from your place, study your ingredients and copy your dish/s... that’s all perfectly legal and so is them moving in across the street and so is them beating your pricing by 40% and after you lost your business, your home, your self esteem you’d have old-Trebor patrons eating in the Pepsi Co. store looking at your closed business saying no laws have been broken, Pepsi Co. is just giving me more value for my dollars and I’m sure Trebor and his home and his family and his kids and his kids college tuition's and his planned retirement date and ability to move to be closer to family will be just fine.It’s just business and no laws have been broken.
Dyson Invents Big
All this rhetoric from a guy that supports putting vacuums into box stores to drive the Indies out of business. But THAT's "just business" when it suits YOUR need.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #221 Dec 10, 2009 2:56 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Dib-ster:
According to your dyson facts and figures, the USA represents two thirds of the new dyson vacuum sales market. Dyson's DC11 gets pulled from two-thirds of its new sales market in less than 9 months, never to be seen ever again. If that is your definition of "successful" product/sales, dyson needs a better spokesperson here because you are selling fish oil to beefeaters.
Carmine D.
Cameron,
I’m guessing TTI missed your Dyson-data harvesting (cruising malls and parking lots and talking with dealers who’ve nailed new and used Dyson’s to their floors).
Dyson Invents Big
P.S. I do not remember stating 2/3rds.
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #222 Dec 10, 2009 4:13 pm
Lucky1 wrote:
All this rhetoric from a guy that supports putting vacuums into box stores to drive the Indies out of business. But THAT's "just business" when it suits YOUR need.
No doubt your gargantuan [some] vac margins and money made sellin rubber-bands and sacks is attractive.But I’d rather jump on the Dyson’s achieves or gets - the most attention, most free publicity, most word of mouth, most patents, most 1st to un-mined segments (ex: Dyson Ball line), most ad dollars spent (probably a U.S. record) gravy train. - But that’s just me.
Dyson Invents Big
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If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #223 Dec 10, 2009 4:39 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
No doubt your gargantuan [some] vac margins and money made sellin rubber-bands and sacks is attractive.But I’d rather jump on the Dyson’s achieves or gets - the most attention, most free publicity, most word of mouth, most patents, most 1st to un-mined segments (ex: Dyson Ball line), most ad dollars spent (probably a U.S. record) gravy train. - But that’s just me.
Dyson Invents Big
Dustmite,
What makes you think Dyson has the most patents? Have you got any evidence? I seriously doubt it.
I'm sure that Mr. Dyson appreciates your life long commitment to providing him with word of mouth advertisements.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #224 Dec 10, 2009 5:54 pm
Severus wrote:
Dustmite,
What makes you think Dyson has the most patents? Have you got any evidence? I seriously doubt it.
I'm sure that Mr. Dyson appreciates your life long commitment to providing him with word of mouth advertisements.
I misspoke...he has the most money making patents of the last 20 yrs (except for maybe 3M's and others sack patents). And others have more (in numbers) and more worthless patents (few or no competitors even bother to knock-off). Speaking of uprights and canisters.
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #225 Dec 10, 2009 8:33 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I misspoke...he has the most money making patents of the last 20 yrs (except for maybe 3M's and others sack patents). And others have more (in numbers) and more worthless patents (few or no competitors even bother to knock-off). Speaking of uprights and canisters.
It would be quite a subjective calculation, though? Number of patents vs. revenue? Say you have a product with 10 function / design patents, how much are each 'worth' to revenue earned over 12 months?
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #226 Dec 11, 2009 1:59 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I misspoke...he has the most money making patents of the last 20 yrs (except for maybe 3M's and others sack patents). And others have more (in numbers) and more worthless patents (few or no competitors even bother to knock-off). Speaking of uprights and canisters.
M00seUK wrote:
It would be quite a subjective calculation, though? Number of patents vs. revenue? Say you have a product with 10 function / design patents, how much are each 'worth' to revenue earned over 12 months?
If you want you could determine the dollar value (however you choose, whatever amount you choose) of the Dyson separator package (for example) and then divide it by the number of patents it takes to protect this unit - thats a way.
Let me ask you something... What is the strongest patent/s or invention held by a Dyson competitor? Or what is the biggest money maker patent/s held by a Dyson competitor? In terms of patents held - these tired competitor’s are 'stuck for an answer.' What they do have is a bunch of U.S. dealers who hype and lie and gouge the trusting consumer. In Europe these vacs are just vacs, in a U.S. and in the dealers showrooms these average vac’s somehow transform into unheard of and untouchable designs and require unheard of margins and pricing.
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #227 Dec 11, 2009 7:35 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Cameron,
P.S. I do not remember stating 2/3rds.
Apparently you don't know as much as you think OR you flip flop flap to suit the purpose. Dyson itself in its press releases, and a dyson rep here in the past, Matt mmc AirBlade, provided the stat and data.
Seems whenever you get trumped by the facts and stats you get personal and play the dyson wealth card. How's that working for you?
Several here posted these flaws and defects here for you to comment. Nothing yet from you.
Dyson DC25 ball with defective motor wirng harnesses after just months of sale/use from several sources posting here
Dyson DC23 Motorhead with defective power/nozzle hose electrical connection within several months of purchase and light use
Dyson DC24 with defective brush nozzle head new out of the box
Dyson DC17 with evidence of voided warranties on wool rugs [Unique carpeting] since the product launch and still
Evidence of additional premature rug wear on synthetic carpets by dyson vacuums with voided rug warranties, possibly due to DC28 design and rug settings [dyson's latest and greatest]
Finally, discontinuing the clutch after DC07 and DC14 high repair costs and faulty use on many style carpets
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #228 Dec 11, 2009 7:45 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
If you want you could determine the dollar value (however you choose, whatever amount you choose) of the Dyson separator package (for example) and then divide it by the number of patents it takes to protect this unit - thats a way.
Let me ask you something... What is the strongest patent/s or invention held by a Dyson competitor? Or what is the biggest money maker patent/s held by a Dyson competitor? In terms of patents held - these tired competitor’s are 'stuck for an answer.' What they do have is a bunch of U.S. dealers who hype and lie and gouge the trusting consumer. In Europe these vacs are just vacs, in a U.S. and in the dealers showrooms these average vac’s somehow transform into unheard of and untouchable designs and require unheard of margins and pricing.
Dib-ster:
You pretend that dyson patents and technology innovations equate to performance enhancement. Yet, no one here, or in the vacuum industry, agrees with you. Fact is, most say it amounts to nothing but overengineering hype and more sizzle than substance. Calling these inventions form over function. We see it with vacuums, hand dryers and now fans.
No one doubts Sir James accumulation of wealth. We disagree on the actual amount and the significance of the trend. Forbes and UK Times tells us it is downward in the last few years.
