"What has dyson invented now?" Original Message Oct 11, 2009 11:23 pm
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #177 Dec 6, 2009 6:59 am
Severus wrote:
No disrespect to Tom Gasko, but given that he does not work for Dyson, I don't think he is a credible source for Dyson sales numbers. Tom certainly knows a lot about Dyson vacuums and the technology, but I have a hard time believing that secretive Dyson is going to release sales numbers to someone working for the competition.
I'm not saying that Dyson does it, but company's (as well as politicians) have been known to leak favorable information. From a consumer point of view, we like to know that we're buying a popular product. Given the rather large discounts I've seen on Dyson products recently, it's possible that Dyson is discounting vacuums to improve sales.
What amazes me is the price of Sebo upright vacuums. It seems like a couple years back, an x4/x5 was in the $550 price range. I was shocked to see them selling for around $800 at some vendors. I don't think the canisters have gone up in price quite so much.
Hello SEVERUS:
Several posters here talked about marketing misques that dyson made. Here's one and your post brought to my mind. While all other brands, like HOOVER TTI, sold in the big box store venues, dropped prices to compete in the recession, dyson raised theirs. Now, trying to play catch up by reducing. The problem is that now with the devaluation of the dollar against the euro, import prices, like SEBO as you noted, have had to go up to make up for the devaluation of dollar. Dyson is getting squeezed both ways with its pricing. Also one of the reasons SEBO does not try harder for the USA market share. Flunctuations in the dollar and exchanges are a business nuisance.
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #178 Dec 6, 2009 8:08 am
Actually Sebo are relatively new to the U.S market which is why they went for a commercial link merger with Windsor BEFORE they went into the U.S independently under their own name. Compared to Miele, Dyson and Hoover etc, Sebo only produce vacuum cleaners and are a relatively smaller private company.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #179 Dec 6, 2009 8:46 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Actually Sebo are relatively new to the U.S market which is why they went for a commercial link merger with Windsor BEFORE they went into the U.S independently under their own name. Compared to Miele, Dyson and Hoover etc, Sebo only produce vacuum cleaners and are a relatively smaller private company.
From the SEBO USA Web Site: I believe Windsor is the commercial name brand for the SEBO uprights.
Carmine D.
Founded in 1978 by a team of German engineers, SEBO has become the largest manufacturer of high-quality commercial upright vacuum cleaners in the world. Throughout the design and manufacturing stages of its various vacuum cleaners, SEBO has focused on providing its customers the key benefits of ease-of-use, reliability, consistent cleaning effectiveness, and high filtration.
The features and durability of SEBO's vacuums naturally led to demand in the consumer market as well. Since its debut, SEBO has satisfied millions of customers around the world and become one of the most highly renowned brand names available.
SEBO America now provides these exceptional products to the American consumer market.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #180 Dec 6, 2009 11:56 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I covered my bases and you still managed to twist... so what else is new? Then tell me ‘O most dishonest one’, name a vac-suit that comes close to paying himself anything close to what Sir James makes. And if you choose to dodge the who's paid more than Mr. Dyson question, then tell me ‘I've got 55 years of mind-numbing vac knowledge’... who is the smartest and/or mightiest and/or greatest visionary of all the tired vacuum-suits?
Dyson Invents Big Patent fact and a matter of public record: Dyson carries the tired vacuum industry.
CarmineD wrote:
dyson DiB:
You forget that Sir James sets his own yearly compensation for himself and his family members who are employees. This pay compensation would never fly with publicly held corporations where a board of independent business directors with a majority vote of the stockholders have to approve the pay of CEO's.
Dare to compare net worth of dyson company to other company brands?
Carmine D.
Cameron,
Hey con man, when you called me out and said my position and observation of Mr. Dyson’s wealth, wealth he made off his/his companies discoveries is [you say] “an opinion” and not belly up and back it with proof otherwise? Well, this is just your way of saying you’re not just a lying con but a dull-witted con too. You’re an embarrassment behind a keyboard.
Think before you 'call me out'.
Dyson Invents Big
This message was modified Dec 6, 2009 by DysonInventsBig
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #181 Dec 6, 2009 12:33 pm
Severus wrote:
No disrespect to Tom Gasko, but given that he does not work for Dyson, I don't think he is a credible source for Dyson sales numbers. Tom certainly knows a lot about Dyson vacuums and the technology, but I have a hard time believing that secretive Dyson is going to release sales numbers to someone working for the competition.
I'm not saying that Dyson does it, but company's (as well as politicians) have been known to leak favorable information. From a consumer point of view, we like to know that we're buying a popular product. Given the rather large discounts I've seen on Dyson products recently, it's possible that Dyson is discounting vacuums to improve sales.
What amazes me is the price of Sebo upright vacuums. It seems like a couple years back, an x4/x5 was in the $550 price range. I was shocked to see them selling for around $800 at some vendors. I don't think the canisters have gone up in price quite so much.
Google Pourno Chrome,
You’re a goof.Tom’s numbers stand (as sighted by Trebor).Do you know basic math?Please account for over a $1b (plus) in Dyson sales or for the 100,000 weekly or 400,000 monthly Dyson units manufactured in Malaysia (per the Malaysian news article I posted a few weeks or so ago).
FYI – reps are always proud of their numbers and their company’s numbers.You know full-well reps talk.Goof!
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #182 Dec 6, 2009 1:00 pm
CarmineD wrote:
From the SEBO USA Web Site: I believe Windsor is the commercial name brand for the SEBO uprights.
Carmine D.
Founded in 1978 by a team of German engineers, SEBO has become the largest manufacturer of high-quality commercial upright vacuum cleaners in the world. Throughout the design and manufacturing stages of its various vacuum cleaners, SEBO has focused on providing its customers the key benefits of ease-of-use, reliability, consistent cleaning effectiveness, and high filtration.
The features and durability of SEBO's vacuums naturally led to demand in the consumer market as well. Since its debut, SEBO has satisfied millions of customers around the world and become one of the most highly renowned brand names available.
SEBO America now provides these exceptional products to the American consumer market.
I was almost surprised that Oreck was not used in more commercial applications. UNTIL I READ 'HIGH QUALITY'.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #183 Dec 6, 2009 1:59 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Cameron,
Hey con man, when you called me out and said my position and observation of Mr. Dyson’s wealth, wealth he made off his/his companies discoveries is [you say] “an opinion” and not belly up and back it with proof otherwise? Well, this is just your way of saying you’re not just a lying con but a dull-witted con too. You’re an embarrassment behind a keyboard.
Think before you 'call me out'.
Dyson Invents Big
dyson DiB-ster:
What you and I say about dyson's supposed wealth are irrelevant to readers. It's what the journalists for the UK Times and Forbes magazine say that matters. Both are the sources here that you posted for Sir James' wealth. Or at least I would think they matter to you since you posted them here. The former says multi-millionaire for 2008 according to the article you posted. The latter has not published results for 2009, but so far it's looking that Sir James' net worth will come in lower for 2009 [meaning below $1B] than 2008.
As I said, money is not a way to measure business success. Money, net worth, call it what you like of an individually privately owned company vice publicly held Corporations is disingenous for all the reasons I and others here posted. A better way is comparing the performance of the products. Choose whatever product venue you like: Vacuums, hand dryers, fans, wheel barrows. That's the great equalizer. What say you on that standard of success for dyson to the competitors? Be prepared to back up your opinions.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #184 Dec 6, 2009 2:06 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I was almost surprised that Oreck was not used in more commercial applications. UNTIL I READ 'HIGH QUALITY'.
HS:
I know you are not advocate for ORECK. I'm not either, tho ORECK works fine for me and others who I know use and like them above the competition. I posted here before and will again. The latest luxury Casino/Hotel to open its doors in North Las Vegas usees two brands of uprights in equal number: ORECK's and Windsors [aka SEBO]. As I'm told by the buyers here for the property, both brands were rated and ranked equally in a match off. So a management decision was made to buy both brands. A decision that after more than one year is still viewed as the right one.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #185 Dec 6, 2009 2:08 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Google Pourno Chrome,
You’re a goof.Tom’s numbers stand (as sighted by Trebor).Do you know basic math?Please account for over a $1b (plus) in Dyson sales or for the 100,000 weekly or 400,000 monthly Dyson units manufactured in Malaysia (per the Malaysian news article I posted a few weeks or so ago).
FYI – reps are always proud of their numbers and their company’s numbers.You know full-well reps talk.Goof!
DIB
We should have known DiB-ster that you were the source of the bogus dyson number.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #186 Dec 6, 2009 2:36 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:
I know you are not advocate for ORECK. I'm not either, tho ORECK works fine for me and others who I know use and like them above the competition. I posted here before and will again. The latest luxury Casino/Hotel to open its doors in North Las Vegas usees two brands of uprights in equal number: ORECK's and Windsors [aka SEBO]. As I'm told by the buyers here for the property, both brands were rated and ranked equally in a match off. So a management decision was made to buy both brands. A decision that after more than one year is still viewed as the right one.
Carmine D.
I neglected to mention above that one of the test criteria to make the cut for the selection of the brand/model purchased was that it had to have the Carpet and Rug Institute seal of approval. ORECK and Windsor both received the coveted green seal of approval and were among the first vacuum products that did after the new testing was institued a few years ago.
