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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

NEW VAX LINE
Original Message   Oct 1, 2009 7:07 pm
Seen the new VAX line of bagless yet? better quality and performance?...at a far lower price.

Some say its stolen Dyson tech...some say its VAX xposing Dyson as a rip off [over priced] over hyped vacuum......that dyson is slipping[sinking brand]...that a dyson can be had at a fraction of the cost and with a warranty thats actually useable.......solved all the dyson flaws.....without the dyson shaft at the register. That VAX has zeroed in on dyson and plans to come at him head on.  If this is true ..then some drastic changes are due at dyson ....and another dyson [im a victim] lawsuit will come.......as always.

turtle1

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #19   Oct 2, 2009 9:11 pm
The bagged vacuum industry in the USA is not ready to concede victory to bagless brands yet if ever let alone to dyson.  The former is still in the lead among vacuum buyers and users.  The latter are still fighting amongst themselves for the sales venues at the big box rip off stores.  With the schism between both [bagged and bagless] increasing year over year.  This phenomenon as much as the bad economic times are both powerful consumer forces working in concert to beat down the sales of the highest priced bagless brand.  Certainly, not a good indicator for a bagless brand and bagless dirt containment mode that boldly predicted would make bagged vacuums obsolete like the horse and carriage. 

Carmine D.

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Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #20   Oct 4, 2009 7:43 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Carmine also predicted that the Vax (and all other brands) would be the demise of Dyson. Dyson is going strong, Vax all but disappeared, and Hoover went busted.</p><p>Such a prophet.

Dyson going strong? Is that fact or your opinion? Those are serious questions on my behalf. The reason I am asking is because of some of the recent discussions on dealer are sites reporting issues relating to financial dealings with Dyson that don't sound normal or business as usual. I am just curious.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #21   Oct 4, 2009 7:51 am
Hello Lucky1:

I posted your concerns awhile back under a new topic:  Dyson going bankrupt?  Especially to DIB, but welcome any and all comments.  No responses as yet forthcoming.  As I mentioned, it was an industry rumor.  But apparently you are hearing the same.  You know how these work.  They spread quickly and are usually right.

I saw TV commercials for Saturn cars right up to the same day that GM annouced the deal with Penske fell thru, and the line would be scrapped.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #22   Oct 4, 2009 8:16 am
Lucky1 wrote:
Dyson going strong? Is that fact or your opinion? Those are serious questions on my behalf. The reason I am asking is because of some of the recent discussions on dealer are sites reporting issues relating to financial dealings with Dyson that don't sound normal or business as usual. I am just curious.



I suppose that 'going strong' is an exageration in today's market.  Oreck as example has has to resort to selling left overs at Costco.

My point is that Dyson has survived better than the Hoover and Vax that was predicted to ruin Dyson.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #23   Oct 4, 2009 8:18 am
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #24   Oct 4, 2009 8:41 am
HARDSELL wrote:
I suppose that 'going strong' is an exageration in today's market.  Oreck as example has has to resort to selling left overs at Costco.

My point is that Dyson has survived better than the Hoover and Vax that was predicted to ruin Dyson.



HS:

I detect a toilet shuffle on your part.  Back peddling.  Dyson is faltering big time, my friend, in all its markets big and small.  It has been since quarter 4 of  2007.  HOOVER, VAX,  and yes even ORECK at COSTCO stores as well as other vacuum brands are increasing and/or maintaining sales while dyson sales have slumped.   That's not bickering, HS, these are facts.  You and others here who boasted of dyson's past sales success want to divert attention away from the onerous dyson news which will inevitably come to light here. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #25   Oct 4, 2009 9:44 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I detect a toilet shuffle on your part.  Back peddling.  Dyson is faltering big time, my friend, in all its markets big and small.  It has been since quarter 4 of  2007.  HOOVER, VAX,  and yes even ORECK at COSTCO stores as well as other vacuum brands are increasing and/or maintaining sales while dyson sales have slumped.   That's not bickering, HS, these are facts.  You and others here who boasted of dyson's past sales success want to divert attention away from the onerous dyson news which will inevitably come to light here. 

Carmine D.



No shuffle Carmine.  Are you saying that all other brand sales are up?

I am not boasting or diverting.  You missed the mark sooo many times on the demise of Dyson.  THat is a fact.

Oreck sales must have slumped.  Why else would they have such an abundance of lefto over models to sell in a national store such as Costco.  Hasn't happened before.  Current models are also available at JC Penny.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #26   Oct 4, 2009 3:07 pm
HS:

Back peddling on a statement YOU MADE about dyson sales is the pay toilet shuffle. 

I said at several different times that I hear a dirge playing for dyson.  Now, it's not just me saying so, my friend.  I was the first to hit the mark but others here have hit it now too.  It's dyson that is on the respirator HS to use a term that you coined.    Nothing will breathe life into it.  It's too darn late.   

Carmine D.     

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #27   Oct 4, 2009 5:34 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Back peddling on a statement YOU MADE about dyson sales is the pay toilet shuffle. 

I said at several different times that I hear a dirge playing for dyson.  Now, it's not just me saying so, my friend.  I was the first to hit the mark but others here have hit it now too.  It's dyson that is on the respirator HS to use a term that you coined.    Nothing will breathe life into it.  It's too darn late.   

Carmine D.     



I have said numerous times that Dyson was following Hoovers footsteps.  Hoover already bit the dust and Dyson could very well follow.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #28   Oct 4, 2009 6:43 pm
HS:

More back peddling with the pay toilet shuffle.  VAX, as in TTI owned, as in owner of HOOVER, is re-entering the bagless vacuum market now because VAX hears the dirge music.    You thought the sounds of the music were celebratory.   You were right.  It is party time for HOOVER and VAX.  The dyson party times are over.  BTW, that's not my line.  And I wasn't the first to use it.  MOLE gets the kudos not me.  

Carmine D.

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