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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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NEW VAX LINE
Original Message   Oct 1, 2009 7:07 pm
Seen the new VAX line of bagless yet? better quality and performance?...at a far lower price.

Some say its stolen Dyson tech...some say its VAX xposing Dyson as a rip off [over priced] over hyped vacuum......that dyson is slipping[sinking brand]...that a dyson can be had at a fraction of the cost and with a warranty thats actually useable.......solved all the dyson flaws.....without the dyson shaft at the register. That VAX has zeroed in on dyson and plans to come at him head on.  If this is true ..then some drastic changes are due at dyson ....and another dyson [im a victim] lawsuit will come.......as always.

turtle1

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #1   Oct 1, 2009 7:27 pm
VAX has a storied and starried history in the vacuum industry.  Also, recently acquired as I understand by TTI, owners of Royal, Dirt Devil, and HOOVER.

Thanks for the heads up turtle1. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #2   Oct 1, 2009 9:20 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
Seen the new VAX line of bagless yet? better quality and performance?...at a far lower price.

Some say its stolen Dyson tech...some say its VAX xposing Dyson as a rip off [over priced] over hyped vacuum......that dyson is slipping[sinking brand]...that a dyson can be had at a fraction of the cost and with a warranty thats actually useable.......solved all the dyson flaws.....without the dyson shaft at the register. That VAX has zeroed in on dyson and plans to come at him head on.  If this is true ..then some drastic changes are due at dyson ....and another dyson [im a victim] lawsuit will come.......as always.

turtle1



Another compliment for Dyson.  The standard to be compared to.

Ever notice that you can always buy cheaper from a thief.  They have no overhead.  Same as the vac companies that steal design.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #3   Oct 1, 2009 9:43 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Another compliment for Dyson.  The standard to be compared to.

Ever notice that you can always buy cheaper from a thief.  They have no overhead.  Same as the vac companies that steal design.



Why pay cadillac prices [read premium] for an every day average run of the mill ho hum mediocre car and ride?  Isn't this thievery?  Same with vacuums, my friend.  You have said here on many occasions that there are no vacuums worth $600.  I presume you include dyson in your statement?  Or do you consider a premium priced product made in a third world country that has labor rates of one-third the amounts of most industrialized nations as an unworthy brand to be included?

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #4   Oct 1, 2009 10:09 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Why pay cadillac prices [read premium] for an every day average run of the mill ho hum mediocre car and ride?  Isn't this thievery?  Same with vacuums, my friend.  You have said here on many occasions that there are no vacuums worth $600.  I presume you include dyson in your statement?  Or do you consider a premium priced product made in a third world country that has labor rates of one-third the amounts of most industrialized nations as an unworthy brand to be included?

Carmine D.



You should include Oreck as a mediocre (or less ride) at Mercedes pricing. 

Dyson prices are too high.  They do, however, give back to employees who develop new technology.

Are you referring to Hoover being made in third world country?

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #5   Oct 2, 2009 7:17 am
HARDSELL wrote:
You should include Oreck as a mediocre (or less ride) at Mercedes pricing. 

Dyson prices are too high.  They do, however, give back to employees who develop new technology.

Are you referring to Hoover being made in third world country?



HS:

Dyson prices are not just high.  They are, as you said in the past, not worth the prices.  Keep the free toilet shuffle.  Dysons are no better than any of the other big box rip off store vacuum brands.  Except for prices which are the highest.  Dyson is made in malaysia, a third world country, by contract staff, who obtain the dyson contract by bidding on it with the lowest labor and overhead rates.  Thievery, HS.

ORECK is made in the USA with a network of 550 authorized ORECK stores nationwide to service/warranty ORECK products.  If it is overpriced for performance, then you should consider the higher price as the same as paying extra for extended service plans.  It's an insurance policy.  You can identify with this concept.  You paid extra for an ESP on your dyson.  Or did you get a dyson refurb free?  Besides, wouldn't you, like most all Americans, be willing to pay a little more for home grown American products to keep jobs here in the USA?   Especially a company like ORECK with a brand name that has been in existence for almost 50 years in the USA. No, I forgot you just bought a HOOVER TTI knock off of ORECK, made in China, for $299, or was it $399?

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #6   Oct 2, 2009 8:32 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Dyson prices are not just high.  They are, as you said in the past, not worth the prices.  Keep the free toilet shuffle.  Dysons are no better than any of the other big box rip off store vacuum brands.  Except for prices which are the highest.  Dyson is made in malaysia, a third world country, by contract staff, who obtain the dyson contract by bidding on it with the lowest labor and overhead rates.  Thievery, HS.

ORECK is made in the USA with a network of 550 authorized ORECK stores nationwide to service/warranty ORECK products.  If it is overpriced for performance, then you should consider the higher price as the same as paying extra for extended service plans.  It's an insurance policy.  You can identify with this concept.  You paid extra for an ESP on your dyson.  Or did you get a dyson refurb free?  Besides, wouldn't you, like most all Americans, be willing to pay a little more for home grown American products to keep jobs here in the USA?   Especially a company like ORECK with a brand name that has been in existence for almost 50 years in the USA. No, I forgot you just bought a HOOVER TTI knock off of ORECK, made in China, for $299, or was it $399?

Carmine D.


Where are those cheapie Hoovers made that you buy in the big box stores?  How about that Fusion that failed to kill Dyson and destroy all your predictions?

I paid $19 for and extended warranty.  Not $500 or more like on the XL21.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #7   Oct 2, 2009 8:41 am
Mexico and China HS.  The difference is that they are worth the $54-$75 paid for their performance. 

My ORECK, made in the USA, costs $199 on sale without the giveaways.  Bought 4 like it at the same price.  Maybe you should be a better shopper/buyer for your vacuums. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #8   Oct 2, 2009 10:43 am
CarmineD wrote:
Mexico and China HS.  The difference is that they are worth the $54-$75 paid for their performance. 

My ORECK, made in the USA, costs $199 on sale without the giveaways.  Bought 4 like it at the same price.  Maybe you should be a better shopper/buyer for your vacuums. 

Carmine D.


What difference does performance matter.  Not made in the USA and not bought at an indy.  You are still a hipocrite

I am a better shopper.  I do not listen to biased opinions.  Would rather make my purchase based on my needs.  I only had to buy 1 Oreck to realize how poorly they perform.  Now you have been through how many Hoovers and Orecks ?

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #9   Oct 2, 2009 12:34 pm
HS:

True to form.  When you lose the argument on its merits, you resort to name calling.  

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: NEW VAX LINE
Reply #10   Oct 2, 2009 12:47 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

True to form.  When you lose the argument on its merits, you resort to name calling.  

Carmine D.



I am not the one who criticizes bb stores and its products.  THEN BUYS THE JUNK FROM THEM. 

You said buy USA made products and then you by imports from those stores that you call rip offs.

Yes. TRUE TO FORM for you. 

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