Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Seen the new VAX line of bagless yet? better quality and performance?...at a far lower price.

Some say its stolen Dyson tech...some say its VAX xposing Dyson as a rip off [over priced] over hyped vacuum......that dyson is slipping[sinking brand]...that a dyson can be had at a fraction of the cost and with a warranty thats actually useable.......solved all the dyson flaws.....without the dyson shaft at the register. That VAX has zeroed in on dyson and plans to come at him head on.  If this is true ..then some drastic changes are due at dyson ....and another dyson [im a victim] lawsuit will come.......as always.

turtle1

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

I detect a toilet shuffle on your part.  Back peddling.  Dyson is faltering big time, my friend, in all its markets big and small.  It has been since quarter 4 of  2007.  HOOVER, VAX,  and yes even ORECK at COSTCO stores as well as other vacuum brands are increasing and/or maintaining sales while dyson sales have slumped.   That's not bickering, HS, these are facts.  You and others here who boasted of dyson's past sales success want to divert attention away from the onerous dyson news which will inevitably come to light here. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

No shuffle Carmine.  Are you saying that all other brand sales are up?

I am not boasting or diverting.  You missed the mark sooo many times on the demise of Dyson.  THat is a fact.

Oreck sales must have slumped.  Why else would they have such an abundance of lefto over models to sell in a national store such as Costco.  Hasn't happened before.  Current models are also available at JC Penny.

HS:

Back peddling on a statement YOU MADE about dyson sales is the pay toilet shuffle. 

I said at several different times that I hear a dirge playing for dyson.  Now, it's not just me saying so, my friend.  I was the first to hit the mark but others here have hit it now too.  It's dyson that is on the respirator HS to use a term that you coined.    Nothing will breathe life into it.  It's too darn late.   

Carmine D.     

CarmineD wrote:

I have said numerous times that Dyson was following Hoovers footsteps.  Hoover already bit the dust and Dyson could very well follow.

HS:

More back peddling with the pay toilet shuffle.  VAX, as in TTI owned, as in owner of HOOVER, is re-entering the bagless vacuum market now because VAX hears the dirge music.    You thought the sounds of the music were celebratory.   You were right.  It is party time for HOOVER and VAX.  The dyson party times are over.  BTW, that's not my line.  And I wasn't the first to use it.  MOLE gets the kudos not me.  

Carmine D.

Well the Mole is talking through a hole in their backside

It doesn't matter what Dyson do in the U.S The fact of the matter is, just because something is "best selling," doesnt mean its the best all rounder. No point in arguing who is cheaper than Dyson because we all know and its due to TTi. However if I was to choose a bagless cyclonic I'd still go with Dyson and that's simply because of the fact that I know I won't have to clean the filter every 3/6 months and that the tools are up to the job plastic PVC or not. Dyson tools are legendary in being slightly better designed than most of the TTi copied stuff

CarmineD wrote:

Hoover's pinada was busted (by Dyson) and the party is over.  VAX disappeared after all your bragging how it was taking over at BB.

Could it be that TTI will have to buy Oreck and salvage their name also?  Heck, they may be able to get it to clean carpets.

HS:

I see the point you are making while you are doing the pay toilet shuffle.  It's okay in your opinion for dyson to go belly up because it's following the HOOVER example.  I don't buy into your song and dance routine.  Dyson should follow the examples of good business actions and companies in the industry, not bad.  If it doesn't know the difference, then it's dyson sales and business that suffer, not the competition.  There's no one else to blame and point to except dyson.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine, I am not blaming anyone but Dyson for its failure.  Now go back and look at all the excuses that you made when Hoover failed.  Hoover had more opportunity than Dyson to follow those same good business actions.  A century of experience, made in the USA, name was a legend.  Greed and stupidity at the top ruins the best of them. 

Did you ever think that we would be that close in our opinions?

HS:

I've said many times here that HOOVER's decision to kow tow to the big box rip off stores in the 1960's at the expense of the indies, was it's downfall.  Took almost 4 decades for the truth that I spoke way back then to come to full fruition.  That said it doesn't take away from the fact that HOOVER is and always will be the gold standard for rug cleaning and grooming. 

Dyson has it's own long list of problems.  The least of which is trying to emulate HOOVER.

Carmine D.