Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Second, how is keeping Dysons alive and fucntioning poaching? He was perfectly happy making 100K/year fixing out of warranty Dysons

Third, you missed the point, Dyson US bought back 25K of parts at wholesale because THEY NEEDED THEM!

The whole Dyson point is moot now anyway. The bag technology has improved so much that dust leakage/loss of suction issue is dead. Dysons are clunky, heavy, hard to maneuver, nearly useless attachments. It was a novel idea put on the market by an engineer with tunnel vision.

Have you never seen a vac shop with Dyson trade-ins and abandoned repairs piled to the ceiling? I have, plenty of them.  Everybody loves their Dyson until it throws a clutch, and people find out it is not under warranty. Same with the flimsy hose when it rips. Then they turn on that wonderful vacuum like a 49.00 Walmart Bissell baglss when the filter clogs. 

Sorry, but it is what is. Fantom frantically put out new models right up until the fat lady sang.

I know James was a backyard inventor who created a company and a product with his name. Just because it is different doesn't automatically make it better, and just because it was better then doesn't make it better now because the competition continues to improve. A Model T and a Crown Victoria are both Ford cars, and have a lot of similarities, that does not mean they have the same performance levels and features.

The disposable bag technology has improved in three distinct ways 1) better filtration 2) much better performance as the bag fills, and 3) increased usable bag capacity. The Mieles of today are quieter and more powerful than their predecesors, many of which are still running well and cleaning after 20 years. How many Dysons, other than those in collections and museums, are still working after that long? The value for the money just isn't there with Dyson, as evidenced by the many of them in repair shops all over the US and Great Britain.

I know James was a backyard inventor who created a company and a product with his name. Just because it is different doesn't automatically make it better, and just because it was better then doesn't make it better now because the competition continues to improve. A Model T and a Crown Victoria are both Ford cars, and have a lot of similarities, that does not mean they have the same performance levels and features.

The disposable bag technology has improved in three distinct ways 1) better filtration 2) much better performance as the bag fills, and 3) increased usable bag capacity. The Mieles of today are quieter and more powerful than their predecesors, many of which are still running well and cleaning after 20 years. How many Dysons, other than those in collections and museums, are still working after that long? The value for the money just isn't there with Dyson, as evidenced by the many of them in repair shops all over the US and Great Britain.

Sir James is one of the luckiest business men in the industry that I know.  Success with 2 lawsuits provided him the "seed" money to grow his brand/products that their sales never did.  First, the royalties on another brand's sales allowed him to build the plant in Malmesbury.  By doing so, dyson expanded vacuum production to 30,000 units a month in the UK.  Then, the HOOVER money to move production to Malaysia and go global.  The plant in the UK was too small for global production.  He should have known that when he built it.  As the business gurus will tell you, making money is the easy part, especially in Sir James' case.  Sustaining it year over year is the hard part.

I wish him luck.  He going to need it.

Carmine D.

I know James was a backyard inventor who created a company and a product with his name. Just because it is different doesn't automatically make it better, and just because it was better then doesn't make it better now because the competition continues to improve. A Model T and a Crown Victoria are both Ford cars, and have a lot of similarities, that does not mean they have the same performance levels and features.

The disposable bag technology has improved in three distinct ways 1) better filtration 2) much better performance as the bag fills, and 3) increased usable bag capacity. The Mieles of today are quieter and more powerful than their predecesors, many of which are still running well and cleaning after 20 years. How many Dysons, other than those in collections and museums, are still working after that long? The value for the money just isn't there with Dyson, as evidenced by the many of them in repair shops all over the US and Great Britain.

Sir James is one of the luckiest business men in the industry that I know.  Success with 2 lawsuits provided him the "seed" money to grow his brand/products that their sales never did.  First, the royalties on another brand's sales allowed him to build the plant in Malmesbury.  By doing so, dyson expanded vacuum production to 30,000 units a month in the UK.  Then, the HOOVER money to move production to Malaysia and go global.  The plant in the UK was too small for global production.  He should have known that when he built it.  As the business gurus will tell you, making money is the easy part, especially in Sir James' case.  Sustaining it year over year is the hard part.

I wish him luck.  He going to need it.

Carmine D.