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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

dyson going bankrupt?
Original Message   Sep 21, 2009 1:34 pm
Hello dyson DIB:

I heard a rumor today and figure the only way to confirm it is to run it by you.  The grapevine is saying dyson is going bankrupt soon?  Any truth to it?

Carmine D. 

This message was modified Sep 21, 2009 by CarmineD
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #27   Oct 24, 2009 12:53 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Venson,  you are beginning to act like Carmine.  What does DIB's accomplishments have to do with lawsuits?</p><p>Carmine shuffles the subject regularly to fight off the wolves.

Hi Hardsell,

Quoting DIB comments from this same thread, here's why . . .

"By comparison...
Carmine has never posted his innovation numbers here. That being his - triangulating and pointing out where to drill a hole for the toggle switch on the Hoover Constellation.

Mole’s invented nothing.

Venson’s worthless.

Retardturtle, is looking to score points and make friends with vacuum dealers and then kick-back and watch the money roll in. Youth."


It being in past posts DIB has also called me a liar as to whether Severus and I were joined at the hip and, last but not least, labeled me worthless, I'd like an accounting of all he sees himself as. This is not my usual habit but one can tire of name calling and braying, even though I'm all for it if there's a good excuse. I so far have seen none here and just want a reality check to be sure I haven't missed out on something. That's why I'm asking.

Venson
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #28   Oct 24, 2009 1:39 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Hardsell,

Quoting DIB comments from this same thread, here's why . . .

"By comparison...
Carmine has never posted his innovation numbers here. That being his - triangulating and pointing out where to drill a hole for the toggle switch on the Hoover Constellation.

Mole’s invented nothing.

Venson’s worthless.

Retardturtle, is looking to score points and make friends with vacuum dealers and then kick-back and watch the money roll in. Youth."


It being in past posts DIB has also called me a liar as to whether Severus and I were joined at the hip and, last but not least, labeled me worthless, I'd like an accounting of all he sees himself as. This is not my usual habit but one can tire of name calling and braying, even though I'm all for it if there's a good excuse. I so far have seen none here and just want a reality check to be sure I haven't missed out on something. That's why I'm asking.

Venson

Venson,

Living in reality is not your forte.

I will say this...  Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY.  I do not take lessons from hunkering down store keepers or old men playing children’s characters.  Deceivers, bad-mouther's and the jealous like you two are in the way of real men who get things done.


DIB

P.S.  If you want...  Have Mike W. write me privately and he and I can discuss your disgust. 


Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #29   Oct 24, 2009 1:57 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Venson,<BR><BR>Living in reality is not your forte.<BR><BR>I will say this...  Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY.  I do not take lessons from hunkering down store keepers or old men playing children’s characters.  Deceivers, bad-mouther's and the jealous like you two are in the way of real men who get things done.<BR><BR><BR>DIB<BR><BR>P.S.  If you want...  Have Mike W. write me privately and he and I can discuss your disgust. 

DIB,

Quoting Shakespeare, "You always ends with a jade's trick. I know you of old."

"Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY."

Give me a break already! I didn't ask what your friends do, did or have done. Thus, your greatest talent yet appears to be name calling and as usual you and your paranoid perceptions have again proven the point for me. By the way, I don't have to run to Mike W. or anyone to be defended. I can manage on my own well enough.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #30   Oct 24, 2009 2:07 pm
Trebor wrote:
To be fair to James Dyson (don't faint DIB) Those two lawsuits were justified. The first was filed against Amway because they had paid 25K front money to James to study the plans, decided they were not interested in manufacturing,  andthen introduced their own version, confident their pockets were deeper and they would bankrupt James. The second was filed against Hoover UK for their 'Triple Vortex' cyclonic. They claimed they were using an old concept for separating sand from oil (Right. Anyone want to buy a bridge?)

Despite a stipulation from the judge barring Hoover UK from seeking the removal of a temporary injunction delaying their entry into bagless cyclonic vaccums, Hoover did so anyway.  The subterfuge shown by these two corpoate behemoths was obvious and just verdicts were rendered, one in the US against Amway, and one in the UK against Hoover. Unfortunately, James appears to have developed a taste for suing as a means of profit.  The 90 pound weakling bulks up at the gym and turns into the town bully, alas. His cause was just, but justice can be corrupted.



Trebor:

Let's give credit where it is due:  Dyson's New York City lawyers with 3 names and 3 piece suits.  The very same that prevailed against the poor young engineering student Kenneth J in its lawsuit over the student's ball facilitator.  The student's patent predated dyson's DC15 ball model by 9 years.  Lost on a technicality.  Kenneth J. got street justice instead of court justice.

The dyson lawsuits and money awards as well as their timing provided Sir James the seed money to accomplish what sales of dyson vacuums never could.  That's luck.  He'll need more of it.  Why?  I just received and email saying Capmark Financial Group, one of the nation's largest commercial-real-estate lenders, plans to file for bankruptcy as soon as this weekend, according to a person familiar with the matter.  How does that relate?  The housing and construction industry has a direct impact on new vacuum sales.  Less of the former results in less of the latter.  Maybe dyson should re-think its dealers' sales/service tactics?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #31   Oct 24, 2009 2:10 pm
Venson wrote:
DIB,

Quoting Shakespeare, "You always ends with a jade's trick. I know you of old."

"Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY."

Give me a break already! I didn't ask what your friends do, did or have done. Thus, your greatest talent yet appears to be name calling and as usual you and your paranoid perceptions have again proven the point for me. By the way, I don't have to run to Mike W. or anyone to be defended. I can manage on my own well enough.

Venson



Dyson DIB:

Are you admitting finally that you are related to Sir James and he was kind enough to give you a job?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #32   Oct 24, 2009 2:12 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Venson,  you are beginning to act like Carmine.  What does DIB's accomplishments have to do with lawsuits?

Carmine shuffles the subject regularly to fight off the wolves.



You HARDSELL are making an awfully cute pay potty dance partner with DIB.  Did he promise you that his Uncle James would give you a job too?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #33   Oct 24, 2009 5:03 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Hardsell,

Quoting DIB comments from this same thread, here's why . . .

"By comparison...
Carmine has never posted his innovation numbers here. That being his - triangulating and pointing out where to drill a hole for the toggle switch on the Hoover Constellation.

Mole’s invented nothing.

Venson’s worthless.

Retardturtle, is looking to score points and make friends with vacuum dealers and then kick-back and watch the money roll in. Youth."


It being in past posts DIB has also called me a liar as to whether Severus and I were joined at the hip and, last but not least, labeled me worthless, I'd like an accounting of all he sees himself as. This is not my usual habit but one can tire of name calling and braying, even though I'm all for it if there's a good excuse. I so far have seen none here and just want a reality check to be sure I haven't missed out on something. That's why I'm asking.

Venson


You did not use those quotes on the post that I commented on.  Please remain you usual self and do not resort to Carmine's ways.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #34   Oct 24, 2009 6:20 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You did not use those quotes on the post that I commented on.  Please remain you usual self and do not resort to Carmine's ways.



HS:

Again, as usual you always miss the obvious.  Repetition is not because of me, but it's because of you!  We all know it takes you a few times and sometimes awhile for you to comprehend!  

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #35   Oct 24, 2009 9:42 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Again, as usual you always miss the obvious.  Repetition is not because of me, but it's because of you!  We all know it takes you a few times and sometimes awhile for you to comprehend!  

Carmine D.


You may have missed something Carmine.  Read again and try to keep quiet and try to  keep up.
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #36   Oct 24, 2009 10:25 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Venson,

Living in reality is not your forte.

I will say this...  Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY.  I do not take lessons from hunkering down store keepers or old men playing children’s characters.  Deceivers, bad-mouther's and the jealous like you two are in the way of real men who get things done.


DIB

P.S.  If you want...  Have Mike W. write me privately and he and I can discuss your disgust. 


Dustmite (aka DIB) - so what tax increase are you responsible for?

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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