Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/

HARDSELL wrote:

No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood. 

Carmine D.

BTW HS I don't need a preserver, give the extra to DIB.  Looks like he wants the HOOVER bagged Platinum too. 

BTW, DIB, HSN was one of the first if not the first retailers to launch the HOOVER Platinum bagged and Lynx stick.  Then again HSN and HOOVER are long time associates in good times and bad.   

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

Where you stands depends on wher you sit.  The ORECK ad on the side banner here shows the dual team Silver series upright and canister for $299, just like the HOOVER Platinum bagged whish you praise.  The most overpriced vacuum on the market today is OWNED by your fave brand.  Its the handheld 30/31 for $270 plus $60 attachments.  You like to impugn ORECK for the giveaways.  The DC31 at $270 should come witha  full size DC07 free!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

From my own perspective, the ORECK will do better on the lower pile carpets than the HOOVER.  HOOVER better on the higher.  In part the latter is due to the wheels on the HOOVER vice the ORECK.  Of course, the HOOVER has more umph!  That's technical jargon for suction.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Thanks for the HSN/Hoover insight.  The idea of the vacuum is to pick up not leave behind, 50 years as an "indie-pro" and you're not aware of this?  How many of these dogs do you think HSN sold during this Hoover demo and how many of these dogs could you sell using this Hoover demo (as in the above pics)?

In the Hoover demo...  if the HSN director moved the camera back any farther (in an attempt to hide the fact that the 2009 Consumer Reports ranked #2 vacuum is crapp) the cameraperson would encounter nose bleeds.


DIB

HS/DIB:

I'm not critiquing the pros and cons of the HOOVER bagged.  I personally used it and was not impressed with its performance on low level carpets.  It does not have a rug height adjustment.  Nor does ORECK.  But ORECK beats HOOVER on low carpets.  HOOVER beats ORECK on high.  So there's a trade off with both in comparison. 

Now, my real point is don't be sore loser.  HOOVER probably has more vacuum products in the latest CR ranks and ratings that are CR praiseworthy than any other brand in history, period.  If nothing else, give credit where its due.  And HOOVER earns it.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

You must have read the Black Tie Geek Squad plan.  Not the same as when I the Oreck manager paid for my DC07 over 3 years ago.  BTW, I have had two TV's replaced under ESP agreements.  No hassle whatsoever.  Try that with an indie.

CarmineD wrote:

I am just as positive that I have said that your requirements are different from mine.  I do not vacuum daily.  Most of the time we go barefoot leaving shoes at the door.  I have no furry pets.  We do have some fish but they are confined to the aquarium.  I no longer drive daily. When I do I want a vehicle capable of getting me where I want to go.  Not one that is only capable of operating in controlled conditions.

I know what the hotel industry uses.  That is why they do not have clean floors.  Do you really think those minimum wage housecleaners care how good the carpet is cleaned?

HARDSELL wrote:
You seem to abuse that return policy or defective product returns. You wont get away with it at with expert indys [thats why you dont do business with them]

mole wrote:

These were not returns.  They were defective products.  The first was a Toshiba CRT TV which qualified for in home service.  A part had to be ordered.  After two weeks of waiting for the part the repairman came to my house and installed it.  That did not resolve the problem in full.  Repairman said he had seen this failure before and it was better to replace the TV.  He called the store from my home and had another TV delivered that same day (Saturday).

Next was a 55 in. Pioneer Elite that sold for over $5000.  There was a known issue some of these sets getting green lines across the screen.  Repairman fixed with parts that Pioneer had determined were needed.  A few weeks later this developed again (occasionally).  By then Pioneer had developed a different solution/fix.  I decided to wait and see if it was a success as I had a five year warranty.  Another month or two and it was found that this fix did not cure the problem and a third Pioneer fix was made available.  I talked to the store manager about my concern of this occuring after my warranty expired.  His suggestion was to exchange for a different TV.  I exchanged for a Panasonic DLP.  It is going strong after 5 years.

An indie would have patched until the factory said no more.  I would then be stuck with a clunker.  Simply being an indie does not mean that you always know more than the consumer or that you will hot try to convince the consumer to be content with the POS that he sold you because you should not expect it to do all that you paid for.